PBC Belts are in production

[The Gambler1981]

Not really. The next in line, or #1 ranked can fight for the new vacant title.

Yea but the amount of the sanctioning fees depends on the purse, Haymon's fighters bring them more money than those guys, generally speaking there would obviously be exceptions but it would be a huge lose for the sanctioning bodies to lose America or even a huge percentage of American boxing.

[Dean_Razorback]

How is that achieved by yet another belt awarding organisation? Worse still, an organisation owned by a guy who also promotes and manages fighters.

Some seriously delusional stuff on this thread. Boxing's corrupt practices exist because they're profitable. A guy motivated by profit is not the guy who's going to remove them.

We already see PBC being as full of **** as any other organisation in this sport. Not even mentioning Sergey Kovalev's name to Adonis Stevenson,
calling Deontay Wilder the heavyweight champion of the world.

They're not trying to drag boxing out of the shit. They've dived head first into it and are just looking to become the rulers of the shit pile. The same as every other sanctioning body or promotional organisation started in this sport.

i can't green you right now bro, great post.

how can anyone not see that monopolies are not a good thing?

[Mitchell Kane]

people have been asking for years for the belts and control to be consolidated and now Haymon is doing so

How is he "consolidating" the belts by creating a new one?

It's not like Haymon is signing up every IBF/WBA/WBC/WBO titlist and having them agree to compete in an elimination tournament with the winner to become the PBC champion.

That would be consolidating.

Haymon's list of PBC fighters is only a fraction of the overall number of boxers and champions in the sport, and what he's doing will likely create more obstacles to "consolidation", not less.

[Tom Cruise]

I was slightly optimistic for boxing dragging itself out of the mud when we were getting meetings between the wba, wbc an and Ibf to try consolidate the titles... I'm not any more.

[01samuelc]

Its funny how most people don't see the PBS business model converging to a lower pay for boxers in the long run ala UFC. The current model isn't by any means perfect however you still have a system where competition leads to boxers being paid accordingly (again not always fair). Haymon is over-paying these guys now to destabilise top rank and golden boy and, when that happens i'll love to hear what his ''but he pays us fairly doe'' supporters say.

[-PBP-]

How is that achieved by yet another belt awarding organisation? Worse still, an organisation owned by a guy who also promotes and manages fighters.

Some seriously delusional stuff on this thread. Boxing's corrupt practices exist because they're profitable. A guy motivated by profit is not the guy who's going to remove them.

We already see PBC being as full of **** as any other organisation in this sport. Not even mentioning Sergey Kovalev's name to Adonis Stevenson,
calling Deontay Wilder the heavyweight champion of the world.

They're not trying to drag boxing out of the shit. They've dived head first into it and are just looking to become the rulers of the shit pile. The same as every other sanctioning body or promotional organisation started in this sport.

Well its not happening with 4 organizations who haven't even come close to getting it right for 30 years and counting. Clearly the sport needs change and the transition will be a J curve. It's going to get worse before it gets better.

I don't care for any of these corrupt snakes. I just hope one of them emerges from the pit and if that's Haymon, then so be it.

[The Gambler1981]

i can't green you right now bro, great post.

how can anyone not see that monopolies are not a good thing?

Monopolies are not always a bad thing~ and you could argue the competition in the boxing business has been highly destructive to the sport~.

MLS is a single entity system, and they are the faster growing soccer league in the world, but there is no real competition for players. If MLS was cut throat it could not survive~

[Mitchell Kane]

Haymon's fighters bring them more money than those guys

Not when they're fighting at catchweights with no titles on the line.

[The Gambler1981]

Not when they're fighting at catchweights with no titles on the line.

Start of the process?

[The Gambler1981]

Also if Kovalev and Stevenson fight do you care because of what they have done in the ring, or do you care because what trinkets they are lugging around.