Does Detonay Wilder Stand much of a chance vs Wlad?

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  • champion4ever
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    #31
    Yes, because he's younger, faster, more athletic and has overall more physical ability than Wlad. He has to utilize his god-given talentand less skill by getting his punches off first in order to get Klitschko out of there. e.g. Corrie Sanders style.

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      #32
      Originally posted by -PANDA-
      povetkin is more active than stiverne and he throws combinations...I don't necessarily think he's (much) better than stiverne...stiverne is a pretty good counter puncher, he knows how to set traps and he's fast
      Whoa, what universe are you living in?

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        #33
        Haye could come out of retirement and take the Bronze Bummer out right now.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Money Shot
          Thing is guys, Wilder has only been in with one live body and he managed a UD, and that live body was severely dehydrated to the point of hospitalisation. No way is Wilder outboxing Klitschko, the more I think about it the less chance I give Wilder. I would not heavily favour Wilder vs Povetkin if that fight is made either. Povetkin is appreciably better than Stiverne.
          Wladimir is not a guy who likes to eat or trade punches and doesn't remotely possess the kind of chin that Bermane Stiverne has; That is why he clinches so frequently. Had Klitschko been hit as often and as flush on the jaw by nearly as a tenth of the punches that Wilder landed on Stiverne, then the fight would've ended much sooner perhaps by KO in the first three rounds.

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          • joemama
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            #35
            Wilder is the hardest puncher Wlad has ever fought. Wlad needs to hold on the survive. This would frustrate Wilder and if Wilder comes to box I have Wlad surviving and making is a boring and foul(clinching) filled decision.

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              #36
              Klitschko will retire before he loses again, and after that, the future of the division is Joshua's and Parker's.

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                #37
                LOL at people saying he has the tools. No, he doesn't. To beat Klitschko you have to have inside game, not just power.

                It's one thing to have power, but the other is to know how to use it. What is he gonna do? Outjab Wladimir Klitschko? Keep him at the distance and wait to land one hail Mary? Good luck with that.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Szef
                  LOL at people saying he has the tools. No, he doesn't. To beat Klitschko you have to have inside game, not just power.

                  It's one thing to have power, but the other is to know how to use it. What is he gonna do? Outjab Wladimir Klitschko? Keep him at the distance and wait to land one hail Mary? Good luck with that.
                  I think length and power are better tools than inside fighting for getting the job done. Wlad can tie guys up effectively and kill them on the way in.

                  Wlad can not by physical advantage easily out range Wilder, which is his prime advantage.

                  So do you get that?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    I think length and power are better tools than inside fighting for getting the job done. Wlad can tie guys up effectively and kill them on the way in.

                    Wlad can not by physical advantage easily out range Wilder, which is his prime advantage.

                    So do you get that?
                    Klitschko fights more aggressively against taller opponents, because he's the better, more skilled fighter of the two.

                    On the other hand, He's had problems with shorter (even lost to them) , aggressive fighters with inside game.

                    Wilder's balance is terrible, so is his defence.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by joemama
                      Wilder is the hardest puncher Wlad has ever fought. Wlad needs to hold on the survive. This would frustrate Wilder and if Wilder comes to box I have Wlad surviving and making is a boring and foul(clinching) filled decision.
                      personally I think david haye hits a bit harder than wilder. wilder's power is very good but its overrated imo. david haye also throws his punches from odd angles and is quicker. I think haye is actually a bigger threat in a rematch with wlad than wilder would be,,,thats assuming haye hasn't lost anything with the big layoff

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