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    #201
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    No Arum does not match his fighters any tougher, that is a total fallacy.

    Arum is one of the most risk averse people in boxing~
    Arum has 3 of the last 4 fights of the year. You don't get those kind of fights without putting your fighters up against tough fighters.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #202
      Originally posted by LesMoonves BOSS
      Arum has 3 of the last 4 fights of the year. You don't get those kind of fights without putting your fighters up against tough fighters.
      FOTY isn't determined by names of the fighters in any way. It's determined by the quality of the fight.

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      • bslythegamerguy
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        #203
        The OP is obviously bitter and has a beef with Haymon which has sparked him to spew this nonsense. Sure, the CBS PBC special didn't have much in the way of advertising, but so what, the NBC and Spike broadcast did and they all had solid ratings. Just be happy boxing is back in the public eye and is on major networks again and drawing solid ratings, it's good for the sport.

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          #204
          Originally posted by bslythegamerguy
          The OP is obviously bitter and has a beef with Haymon which has sparked him to spew this nonsense. Sure, the CBS PBC special didn't have much in the way of advertising, but so what, the NBC and Spike broadcast did and they all had solid ratings. Just be happy boxing is back in the public eye and is on major networks again and drawing solid ratings, it's good for the sport.
          The NBC broadcast had TWO advertisers and about 6 ads over the entire program. Not much better. I didn't watch the Spike show as I do not have that channel. Ratings are OK for a Saturday night show but need to be at least 5 times as high to be able to get decent ad revenue to be profitable. They also need to increase the number of ads by about a factor of 10.

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          • bslythegamerguy
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            #205
            For the first PBC card which aired on NBC I saw a ton of commercial advertising throughout the broadcast, but keep in mind that it's hard to air much in the way of commercials when it only get a minute between rounds. Plus they have to promote their cards and their fighters with vignettes and whatnot so ads on boxing would be thin, much like they are during MMA broadcasts.

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            • Deevel916
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              #206
              Originally posted by bslythegamerguy
              For the first PBC card which aired on NBC I saw a ton of commercial advertising throughout the broadcast, but keep in mind that it's hard to air much in the way of commercials when it only get a minute between rounds. Plus they have to promote their cards and their fighters with vignettes and whatnot so ads on boxing would be thin, much like they are during MMA broadcasts.
              I caught this past Saturday's afternoon card starting in round 3 and I did not see 1 commercial outside of pbc's own commercials promoting their fighters.

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                #207
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                FOTY isn't determined by names of the fighters in any way. It's determined by the quality of the fightERS.
                fixed it for you

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                  #208
                  Originally posted by bslythegamerguy
                  For the first PBC card which aired on NBC I saw a ton of commercial advertising throughout the broadcast, but keep in mind that it's hard to air much in the way of commercials when it only get a minute between rounds. Plus they have to promote their cards and their fighters with vignettes and whatnot so ads on boxing would be thin, much like they are during MMA broadcasts.
                  MMA fights are shorter: 3 or 5 round fights, with 5 minute rounds.

                  With a max of 15-25 minute fights, there's more fights and more time between fights to get commercials in.

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                    #209
                    The only fight I didn't think was a mismatch was Thurman-Guerrero and it turned out to be a pretty decent fight.

                    Other than that the shows are pretty meh so far. I cancelled my Showtime subscription because of the Stevenson-Bika type of mismatches we were getting. So I guess it's cool that that dung pile is free, but it's still dung.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by LesMoonves BOSS
                      Arum has 3 of the last 4 fights of the year. You don't get those kind of fights without putting your fighters up against tough fighters.
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      FOTY isn't determined by names of the fighters in any way. It's determined by the quality of the fight.
                      Originally posted by mrlopez
                      FOTY isn't determined by names of the fighters in any way. It's determined by the quality of the fightERS. fixed it for you
                      No, its determined by the quality of the fight. Here are the last 5 ring FOTY.

                      2010 Giovani Segura KO 8 Ivan Calderon
                      2011 Victor Ortiz W 12 Andre Berto
                      2012 Juan Manuel Marquez KO 6 Manny Pacquiao IV
                      2013 Timothy Bradley W 12 Ruslan Provodnikov
                      2014 Lucas Matthysse KO 11 John Molina, Jr.


                      I stand by my point.

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