Comments Thread For: Arum: Majority of Americans Wants Pacquiao To Win

[Skip Bayless]

well yeah obviously most people want pac to win, he is more likeable to the general public

[Build That Wall]

Sounds shady, I want to start a protest. Bring in some judges from Utah and Idaho, we some neutrality.

1 US Judge and 2 international judges


Adalaide Byrd

John Keane

Craig Metcalfe


Solid team right there. Byrd has had some questionable scores but she has always scored the biggest fights correctly. She was Spot on on Rios vs Abril

Check out this vid. She is very well spoken

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[TheOliverBrand]

Great thing about America is that you can root for whoever the hell you want to. I am rooting for Mayweather may 2nd. Does that make me a Floydiot or whatever childish name someone wants to name me? I could give two ****s.and honestly, the only thing that matters is what actually goes down in a few weeks.

[stuff jones]

Great thing about America is that you can root for whoever the hell you want to. I am rooting for Mayweather may 2nd. Does that make me a Floydiot or whatever childish name someone wants to name me? I could give two ****s.and honestly, the only thing that matters is what actually goes down in a few weeks.

It calls into question your character as you are hoping a person who beats the **** out women with their kids around is successful. Why?

[TheOliverBrand]

Well you're asking a rather loaded question without much possibility to definitively answer it. In terms of multiculturalism vs nationalism, I think most people are inclined to have their sport loyalties gravitate towards the local, or the country athlete. However post the 1970's or so, at least in America, there began to be an exploration into other cultures and less of a steadfast support for whomever the athlete is that lives in the same borders. Especially in combat sports. Now that doesn't mean America still doesn't enjoy a roaring "USA! USA!" chant, but as many of the top athletes in the world began gravitating towards our shores for the purposes of training at the best locations with the top trainers, and they began to fight more and more in our cities, they become almost adopted on a national level.

Manny hasn't had a single fight in the Philippines since 2006. Meanwhile the bulk of his money has been earned in fights in Vegas, he trains with Roach out in LA, and he's become a fan favorite to many Americans because they appreciate his style, or his personality, or whatever it is they find agreeable about him. On the reverse side of this coin, we have Floyd, an American born fighter who has openly talked about cultivating a persona to hype and sell tickets and buys with the knowledge people want to see him lose the 0. To barrow from pro wrestling lingo, Mayweather is a prototypical "heel" - the guy who's on top of the world, has the money, the record, the fame, and the skills to back it up and isn't afraid to be "hated" because he knows that translates to more ticket sales. All the flashy things he does are to garner attention, do you really think when cameras aren't rolling he tosses hundred dollar bills around like they are confetti? No, it's an act. So we have an instance where America has grown to love one fighter who was born out of the country, facing another fighter who they dislike who was born within the same country.

Someone earlier brought up the Yankees analogy with Money, and it's quite fitting. I know born and bred New Yorkers who HATE the Yankees, and are either Mets fans, or Phillies fans, or take your pick really...so come World Series (not recently, obviously) just because the Yankees are in the finals doesn't mean they are suddenly going to abandon their years of built up animosity just because the locals are involved. Same concept at play here.

So I don't think this is a sign that nationalism or patriotism is on the decline, merely that the narrative of these two athletes have been established for years now, and neither one particularly plays up their nation of birth in terms of why this fight is significant. Obviously Pac is going to carry a sweeping sense of support from the Philippines as the country has rallied behind him both in terms of boxing, politics, and even letting him and his laughably poor basketball skills be excused in exchange for being the National Hero. Mayweather seems far more content to be enveloped in celebrity culture, which works for some fans and sours others.

As for this fight holding American Boxing superiority in the balance? Ehhhh, I'd argue we lost the image of being the boxing power house quite a while ago. I've long said, it is going to take a dominate American Heavyweight Champion again to actually reignite the level of attention and fervor it would require for a country to become a super power in the sports world.

Very good points you brought up. As sad as it is to say, it will take an American heavyweight to reignite public interest. All that further goes to prove is that the people have yet to realize true skill over brute strength and size. Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather are truly gifted athletes which the public should appreciate, regardless of alliances.

[TheOliverBrand]

It makes your character questionable as you are hoping a person who beats the **** out women with their kids around is successful. Why?

I will answer this in the most honest way possible.

First off, life isn't a ****ing movie where the good guy walks away as the winner. More importantly, I could give two ****s about how a fighter is perceived in the eyes of the public, considering that each person has a mind and opinion of their own, and can change at the drop of a dime. I appreciate Floyds style of boxing. Don't question my character. Let me guess, Ali is one of your favorites right? Guess what, he's one of mine as well. Doesn't change the fact that he's had multiple affairs and children out of marriage, disrespected, turned his back, and degraded a man who helped him out of his own downfall (Joe frazier). You're falling in love with people's personalities that you don't even know

[Century Tuna]

#TBE

[mastertech1985]

It calls into question your character as you are hoping a person who beats the **** out women with their kids around is successful. Why?

bro last time I checked, an athetes personal life's has nothing to do with anything in their sport

Like America is some morally righteous place


hell you probably hit a woman your personal life as well, but I don't care...nor do I care if Manny or Mayweather has....its their personal lifes



Is manny cheating on his wife, getting drunk, and ******** any better??


either way....I don't even bother getting emotionally involved in sports in a way that I would disregard an athletes accomplishments in their profession because I don't agree with things they have done in their personal life

[TheOliverBrand]

bro last time I checked, an athetes personal life's has nothing to do with anything in their sport

Like America is some morally righteous place


hell you probably hit a woman your personal life as well, but I don't care...nor do I care if Manny or Mayweather has....its their personal lifes



Is manny cheating on his wife, getting drunk, and ******** any better??


either way....I don't even bother getting emotionally involved in sports in a way that I would disregard an athletes accomplishments in their profession because I don't agree with things they have done in their personal life

Damn... Lol

[stuff jones]

I will answer this in the most honest way possible.

First off, life isn't a ****ing movie where the good guy walks away as the winner. More importantly, I could give two ****s about how a fighter is perceived in the eyes of the public, considering that each person has a mind and opinion of their own, and can change at the drop of a dime. I appreciate Floyds style of boxing. Don't question my character. Let me guess, Ali is one of your favorites right? Guess what, he's one of mine as well. Doesn't change the fact that he's had multiple affairs and children out of marriage, disrespected, turned his back, and degraded a man who helped him out of his own downfall (Joe frazier). You're falling in love with people's personalities that you don't even know

So you like to see ****ty human beings rewarded? Yeah, that calls into question your character, as does comparing adultery and **** talking with physically beating women.