Kovalev would brutally KO Roy Jones JR prime for prime

[joseph5620]

Triangle theories don't work. And Hopkins is a complicated case to be examined. He is a late bloomer.

Who was better? The young, still growing and learning Hopkins of the mid-90's or the mid to late 40's Hopkins of the post-2010 era? Both have their flaws.

Neither Kovalev nor Roy fought a JUST-RIGHT Hopkins and that's not even a excuse for Hopkins because he doesn't need excuses like Roy Jones or James Toney. He is after all the one who never got KO'd no matter at what point of his career, or straight up dominated (that is until the Kovalev fight of course).

The younger version of Hopkins was better than the 49 year old version of Hopkins. That's not even debatable.

[cupocity303]

RJJ wasn't touched that much, be real here fella a.

He was touched enough against inferior competition to not act like he is Mr. Untouchable. That's all I'm saying.

I don't feel like Boxrec-ing the names of his opponents since I have forgotten them after all these years. One guy scored a flash knockdown on him (he got touched, thas all I'm saying), and another guy was in the fight until he broke his hand and was forced to retire in one of the most boring PPV main event fights in history. I forgot the opponents name but I watched the fight live. Roy Would land 7 punches per round, to the other guys 4 punches. The worst fight ever until he threw a punch and landed it on Roy's elbow and the fight got stopped.

[Fists_of_Fury]

With or without his steroids?

Wasn't Roy caught for a substance that is an over the counter product that was only banned by the IBF called Ripped Fuel? Also that fight that he tested positive for the other guy was also positive lol.

[cupocity303]

The younger version of Hopkins was better than the 49 year old version of Hopkins. That's not even debatable.

I don't know about that. We don't have the opponents to compare his ability.

Can the 90's version outmaneuver a Pascal the way he did? He certainly depended more on his strength back then as he had more upper body muscle mass. His entire style changed permanently once he fought Tito in 2001.

He has never been the same fighter since.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Kovalev doesn't have to land on the chin though, he broke Agnew's ribs, he went to hospital and the shot didn't look that hard, Caparello got the same treatment

Here's a Roy Jones Jr. rib shot.

[cupocity303]

The younger version of Hopkins was better than the 49 year old version of Hopkins. That's not even debatable.

Of course it's debatable. Just because he lost to Kovalev, does not mean it's not debatable. He just had one fight as a 49 year old against the guy every one touted as the next big thing because even amateur scouts can recognize a guys talent in advance.

Now, had Hopkins lost {or better yet gotten DOMINATED} by a sub-par Light-heavyweight, then you would be correct.

[Hype job]

He doesn't just punch hard though, he is by common consensus the hardest pfp puncher in the sport of boxing today, and there are a lot of boxers out there.

It's not just about power, but at times Kovalev's power seems other-worldly. He's breaking opponents ribs with jabs, dropping them with innocuous looking shots, and KO-ing guys who are known to be very durable.

David Jackson back in 2013:



That kind of power makes him live in any fight.

Power an overrated attribute doe

All about skillz doe

[SplitSecond]

He was touched enough against inferior competition to not act like he is Mr. Untouchable. That's all I'm saying.

I don't feel like Boxrec-ing the names of his opponents since I have forgotten them after all these years. One guy scored a flash knockdown on him (he got touched, thas all I'm saying), and another guy was in the fight until he broke his hand and was forced to retire in one of the most boring PPV main event fights in history. I forgot the opponents name but I watched the fight live. Roy Would land 7 punches per round, to the other guys 4 punches. The worst fight ever until he threw a punch and landed it on Roy's elbow and the fight got stopped.

lou del valle, eric harding, both southpaws, one a former sparring partner which roy dominated anyway until he let his guard down and got kd'd, the other a boring featherduster who only looked to sit back and counter, also it was his bicep that he tore

[joseph5620]

I don't know about that. We don't have the opponents to compare his ability.

Can the 90's version outmaneuver a Pascal the way he did? He certainly depended more on his strength back then as he had more upper body muscle mass. His entire style changed permanently once he fought Tito in 2001.

He has never been the same fighter since.

No, but there are plenty of video's that show he was quicker, more active, and had much better stamina.

[richardt]

No I'm going to come at you with prime Roy beat a younger Hopkins convincingly too.

On top of that, Jones won that fight with a fractured wrist that he got in sparring a few weeks before the fight. I think about that fight and how bloody Jones was from a cut in another fight and how drained he was when he came down from heavyweight and not once cancelled or postponed a fight in his career - the resounding truth is that Jones had no quit in him, ever. One of the top ATG's of the past 25 years and at least a top 25 ever.