name 5 fighters roach developed into champs early on before titles or top 10 ranking

[D4thincarnation]

Roach is a great trainer but most the guys he trains were champs or top ten contenders before he got them....asking a serious question

You don't know the answer?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Great question. I can't name any fighter Roach has developed from scratch. Now, Nacho, and Emmanuel Stewart, yes no doubt they have a resume that supports great trainers.

Someone mentioned what Freddie has done for Cotto. He beat an old and injured sergio. Come on people, you can't believe that.

I think Freddie and Floyd sr., is overrated as trainers, but I lean more to Sr., since he taught Floyd the science of boxing. He understands defense, and position.

Compare how cotto looked vs trout, to what he looks like in his few fights with Freddie..

People were writing off cotto for a long time, pretty much ever since the clottey and manny fights.. Cotto struggled to put away an ancient mayorga, one leg yuri, one eyed margarito,, losing to floyd and trout, people thought the guy was done, but roach resurrected cotto's attacking style and has him positioned to make career high paydays..
Nobody thought this was possible till cotto went with roach after the trout loss

[D4thincarnation]

Roach has always said, that his great fighters make him the great trainer that he is, without them he wouldn't be.

Many great fighters learn a lot from him and improve their game even if they have worked with him for a little while.

If you don't have a great fighter you will never be a great trainer.

[QballLobo]

Roach is an established trainer, he isn't on the lookout for the next up and coming prospect. Fighters like Khan and Cotto come to him to get better.
Usually a trainer comes up with the fighter like Hunter/Ward for example and then other fighters come to them. Roach is long past that road.
Fighters don't come to Floyd Sr. anymore because they saw how he did Hatton and they don't want none of that nonsense.

[-PBP-]

People are so defensive. The answer is none. Move on.

But obviously that doesn't mean he's not a good trainer. Sensitive ass dudes man.

[JJRod]

Roach is a great trainer and worthy of evey accolade he receives.
He doesn't develop guys from scratch because he doesn't have to. The great ones seek him. And of those he receives, with few exceptions he improves them. Look at Cotto, Toney, Pac just to name a few.

People use to make similar arguments about Phil Jackson the basketball coach. They argued he only won because he had Jordan, Shaq and Kobe. Easy to forget Kobe and Shaq played for years before Phil came. Same with Jordan.

[just the facts]

I dunno the history behind Prov or Beltran so much but he never took AMir from scratch to world title lol

Now, back to the TS, how many great trainers can you name who took fighters from scratch? Most "great" trainers have been hired guns.

Manny Steward and Nacho Beristein took many fighters from amateur to world champs

[HanzGruber]

Mike stafford > roach the joke coach. Stafford has one and will prob have 2 more by next year

[D4thincarnation]

Fighters go to professor Roach when they want their masters in boxing.


Phd professors don't teach elementary school

[therealpugilist]

You don't know the answer?

If I knew the answer I wouldn't have asked


I know he's trained a lot of great fighters....idk who he started with early on


I like him he is a great trainer, I don't understand why people are upset because I asked.... Their have been way worse threads on this forum.