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name 5 fighters roach developed into champs early on before titles or top 10 ranking

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  • #41
    Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
    If I knew the answer I wouldn't have asked


    I know he's trained a lot of great fighters....idk who he started with early on


    I like him he is a great trainer, I don't understand why people are upset because I asked.... Their have been way worse threads on this forum.

    Well I am glad the forum could help you improve your boxing knowledge.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Mr 117-111 View Post
      People are so defensive. The answer is none. Move on.

      But obviously that doesn't mean he's not a good trainer. Sensitive ass dudes man.
      They act like I blatantly insulted the guy


      Not once did I trash roach



      I asked because I wasn't sure about when he started with some of my favorite fighters like Virgil hill, Jorge Linares, Izzy Vazquez etc.

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      • #43
        Trainers/coaches do things better than others just like fighters. Floyd is a defensive fighter and better than Manny, but Manny is every bit as good as an offensive fighter as Floyd is defensively. In coaching there are some coaches who have a specific system and need the right talent, other coaches are good at just coming up with a plan to fit their talent and some are great at just rebuilding and fixing a good foundation that's just starting to show some cracks and start breaking down.

        That's Roach, he's a great offensive trainer that if you know how to fight he can get you in shape physically and mentally and take you to another level. Developing and molding a fighter from scratch is just not something he's good at, nothing wrong with that.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
          This thread ain't about Floyd sr....sr ain't getting dozens of accolades nor is it about natural talent



          I just asked a simple question.... Some folks are too emotionally invested on this site
          Why are you so emotionally invested in hating on Roach for fighters wanting to be trained by him

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          • #45
            Unless the fighters come to you impossible to travel behind new fighters that have talent.

            Very few have developed 5 fighters that will get a title. Roach is like an advanced music teacher in that you have to already have to know how play a music instrument real good and he will tweak you to get you better.

            Most top trainers are like that.

            George Benton had a few prospects but don't know how many got titles. The Goosen brothers have had a good farming system too. Maybe the Duvas?

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            • #46
              To me all roach does is fix their balance and teach them to turn over their punches..... its kind of disgusting how bad the average boxing trainers are....

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              • #47
                Roach took Khan from a fresh KO loss as a prospect to unified champion at 140. Close enough.

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                • #48
                  Fighters are mostly born not made, the job of a trainer is to bring the best out of them and Roach does that.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by PivotandRoll View Post
                    To me all roach does is fix their balance and teach them to turn over their punches..... its kind of disgusting how bad the average boxing trainers are....
                    balance and proper punching technique is important

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                    • #50
                      Roach is very good at revitalizing careers!

                      @TS we can consider provo, pac, amir khan. He got them all from the dump and turned them to great and good fighters.

                      Miguel, toney, oskie, chavez are the one that he just revitalized.

                      Thats how good roach is.

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