WBC Middleweight Title Situation

[The Big Dunn]

Don't get ahead of yourself Dunn, Floyd hasn't even got past Manny yet. No need to brush off Cotto yet.

I'm not brushing off cotto-I don't see him beating the winner of the Floyd/Manny fight regardless of who wins. You already know this.

Just pointing out he can wait until September to fight the winner and not violate the WBC's mandate.

[Beater_of_ass]

I'm not brushing off cotto-I don't see him beating the winner of the Floyd/Manny fight regardless of who wins. You already know this.

Just pointing out he can wait until September to fight the winner and not violate the WBC's mandate.

I don't think a Manny fights get made if he beats Floyd, Roach being both their trainer is a deal breaker. If Manny wins it's Cotto/Canelo for sure and if Floyd wins it'll be him.

[bigjavi973]

Cotto can cancel his June 6 fight and just wait and see what happens in May. He will probably has his next fight in September with Canelo and it would still be counted as his voluntary defense.

not gonna happen. Haven't canelo fans learned that cotto doesn't give two sh^ts about a "mexican holiday", like cinco de mayo for example?

[The Big Dunn]

I don't think a Manny fights get made if he beats Floyd, Roach being both their trainer is a deal breaker. If Manny wins it's Cotto/Canelo for sure and if Floyd wins it'll be him.

Makes more sense but it would be hard to pass on getting another lineal and div title if you are Manny. You beat Floyd and win the lineal MW title in the same year that's FOTY award and could potentially result in back to back FOTD awards. Now you are really in the conversation for top 5-10 All time IMO, and you know I am not a Manny fan.

I expect-Floyd/cotto and Manny/ winner of matts/provo

[bigjavi973]

Makes more sense but it would be hard to pass on getting another lineal and div title if you are Manny. You beat Floyd and win the lineal MW title in the same year that's FOTY award and could potentially result in back to back FOTD awards. Now you are really in the conversation for top 5-10 All time IMO, and you know I am not a Manny fan.

I expect-Floyd/cotto and Manny/ winner of matts/provo

IMO cotto should have dropped the WBC and went after K9's IBF title. Then a rematch with floyd for unified SWW WBC/WBA(Super)/IBF 154 lbs titles.

Lets say floyd beats pac in may.... hell be unified ww champ right?

and then if floyd fights cotto in sep?

Hell be unified champ at 154 too


wouldn't it be first time we have a unified champ at ww & sww at the same time?

[boliodogs]

I think the WBC already said the winner of Cotto's next fight must fight GGG next and Cotto said no Alphabet organization would tell him who he must fight which sounds like he won't fight GGG. Heiland is rated 9th in the world at middleweight so he is a decent acceptable challenger for Cotto's title IF Cotto fights him at the standard 160 limit and doesn't try to weaken Heilman by making the weight a catch weight with a limit below 160 pounds.

[Humean]

The only way Golovkin doesn't either get the WBC handed to him by Cotto vacating or get to fight for it at the end of the year is if he perhaps allows Cotto-Canelo to happen later in the year under the agreement that the winner fights him early 2016.

[Barcham]

Haymon and Roc Nation obviously have beef but you think that will get in the way in making Mayweather-Cotto 2 PPV? If Mayweather wins in May who else is he going to fight to make PPV money? Thurman isn't a PPV fighter yet, Khan is a lose/lose situation for Floyd, risky fight but if he beats Khan he won't get any credit for it just another "glass chin, cherry pick".
Plus Roc Nation needs a big fight to try and get things going for their promotion because seems like things aren't going too well for them so far. A Cotto loss to Mayweather doesn't hurt much but losing to Canelo or GGG makes Cotto irrelevant imo.

And a second win over Cotto, who he has already cleanly and clearly beaten, does absolutely nothing for Mayweather. Who says he even bothers to fight again after May 2nd? It's not like he will need the money and beating Cotto again does nothing for his legacy, even if Cotto did still have the MW title to put up. Everyone knows that Cotto is a sham champion at 160. If Floyd was to take on Golovkin for the middleweight title, THAT would mean something. It would also put an end to his career and likely land him in hospital but that is another discussion.

[Barcham]

The only way Golovkin doesn't either get the WBC handed to him by Cotto vacating or get to fight for it at the end of the year is if he perhaps allows Cotto-Canelo to happen later in the year under the agreement that the winner fighters him early 2016.

Golovkin would be very ****** to step aside as Cotto has already demonstrated that he has no respect for what sanctioning bodies say. So any agreement with him would not be worth a damn thing. Cotto-Canelo should be a big money fight with or without the MW title at stake, especially since people can't stop commenting on how titles don't mean anything.

Cotto should vacate and GGG should in no way step aside for someone else. He has spent his career either being passed over for others or avoided. It's time he gets his due.

[Humean]

Golovkin would be very ****** to step aside as Cotto has already demonstrated that he has no respect for what sanctioning bodies say. So any agreement with him would not be worth a damn thing. Cotto-Canelo should be a big money fight with or without the MW title at stake, especially since people can't stop commenting on how titles don't mean anything.

Cotto should vacate and GGG should in no way step aside for someone else. He has spent his career either being passed over for others or avoided. It's time he gets his due.

When people don't uphold their side of a contract then you can sue them. People who say that titles don't mean anything don't have a clue about what they are talking about. I'm sure Canelo would rather fight Cotto for the 160 WBC and ring belt than not.