Who trained harder: Mayweather or Hagler?

[General STRUGG]

hagler and its not even close.

[boliodogs]

To know the answer I would have to know everything they did in training and that's impossible. Since they were both always in great shape they both must have trained hard enough and they both had natural stamina. It's important to train hard but it's also important to train smart. Boxers must get good rest and be careful not to over train or burn themselves out from too much or too long of time hard training and sparring.

[MindBat]

Does the isolation factor really make things more "hardcore"? Both Manny and Mayweather, for example, are always surrounded by friends and family.

They are not "always" surrounded by friends and family. There are times when friends and family need not be close to a fighter especially when a fighter is preparing for a major bout.

Floyd does more drugs than that **** from wolf of wall street.

Unbeknownst to you and Pac fans, Marquez gives Floyd tips on undetectable PEDs use.

Why do you think Manny suddenly agreed to take the random tests after the KO?

[firstborn]

To know the answer I would have to know everything they did in training and that's impossible. Since they were both always in great shape they both must have trained hard enough and they both had natural stamina. It's important to train hard but it's also important to train smart. Boxers must get good rest and be careful not to over train or burn themselves out from too much or too long of time hard training and sparring.

Are you talking about Mayweather in the bold? He didn't look that great against Maidana the second time around. I'd bet it had something to do with him over training in effort to make some kind of statement.

Wonder if Mayweather will make the same mistake against Pac....

[GOD-FR33]

What?

What??? How can you compare Floyd's training to Hagler's training??? It's not possible, here's why. Marvin Hagler is an ATG who fought the best. He would fight anywhere, anytime, any place, even outside of the country. Floyd is a mere HOF'mer who is insecure and doesn't fight the very best. We don't know how great Floyd's stamina is. We know it's good at best. He's never had to fight 12 HARD rounds against opposition that could defeat him. He gets away with this low output per round in this era. He wouldn't get away with it in another era where EVERY opponent only knew HARD WORK. They would throw until the end. I question whether he can fight 12 hard rounds against A Level fighters, fight in and fight out. He wanted to retire after Hatton. He wanted to retire after Cotto. Maidana's pace bothered the hell out of him. Maidana won like 5 out of the first 6 rounds, in the first fight because of his pace alone. Floyd's condition would not survive the 80's or 90's. He is conditioned to go all night fighting at the slow pace he fights, throwing 40 punches a round. This is a major weakness.

[The Big Dunn]

Mayweather is known for his obsessive training regiment, working out whenever he thinks the other guy is resting. And he is probably even out-working Manny for May 2. But Hagler was also animal when it came to training. Isolating himself on cape cod, running backwards, pushing himself until he was literally screaming in pain, hardcore stuff.

6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.

[Biolink]

Does the isolation factor really make things more "hardcore"? Both Manny and Mayweather, for example, are always surrounded by friends and family.

It could have the opposite effect if you aren't mentally strong. Isolated you just end up thinking about fighting the guy over and over again in your head. Putting mental pressure on yourself consistently before you even fight him isn't good.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

what??? How can you compare floyd's training to hagler's training??? It's not possible, here's why. Marvin hagler is an atg who fought the best. He would fight anywhere, anytime, any place, even outside of the country. Floyd is a mere hof'mer who is insecure and doesn't fight the very best. We don't know how great floyd's stamina is. We know it's good at best. He's never had to fight 12 hard rounds against opposition that could defeat him. He gets away with this low output per round in this era. He wouldn't get away with it in another era where every opponent only knew hard work. They would throw until the end. I question whether he can fight 12 hard rounds against a level fighters, fight in and fight out. He wanted to retire after hatton. He wanted to retire after cotto. Maidana's pace bothered the hell out of him. Maidana won like 5 out of the first 6 rounds, in the first fight because of his pace alone. Floyd's condition would not survive the 80's or 90's. He is conditioned to go all night fighting at the slow pace he fights, throwing 40 punches a round. This is a major weakness.

so marvin hagler never ducked anyone? Try a whole division, hes an atg and one of my favs but lets not forget history

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

what??? How can you compare floyd's training to hagler's training??? It's not possible, here's why. Marvin hagler is an atg who fought the best. He would fight anywhere, anytime, any place, even outside of the country. Floyd is a mere hof'mer who is insecure and doesn't fight the very best. We don't know how great floyd's stamina is. We know it's good at best. He's never had to fight 12 hard rounds against opposition that could defeat him. He gets away with this low output per round in this era. He wouldn't get away with it in another era where every opponent only knew hard work. They would throw until the end. I question whether he can fight 12 hard rounds against a level fighters, fight in and fight out. He wanted to retire after hatton. He wanted to retire after cotto. Maidana's pace bothered the hell out of him. Maidana won like 5 out of the first 6 rounds, in the first fight because of his pace alone. Floyd's condition would not survive the 80's or 90's. He is conditioned to go all night fighting at the slow pace he fights, throwing 40 punches a round. This is a major weakness.

brother you went too far, we know u dont like floyd but damn all of this to say hagler trained harder? Lol

[GOD-FR33]

so marvin hagler never ducked anyone? Try a whole division, hes an atg and one of my favs but lets not forget history

Who the hell did Marvin Hagler duck? A whole division? He spent his entire career as a middleweight. I am not here to argue moot points. You need to show more respect for Hagler than that, son. We are talking about one of the toughest fighters, EVER. Can you say the same about Floyd? Now he is the one fighter I've ever seen with skills, who's ducked the most comepetitve fights.