Andre Ward's Opposition Revisited

[KillaMane26]

2 thumbs down.......name somebody who could do what Ward did to all those fighters....

[Jubei]

golovkins opposition has been poor at best tho no matter how u spin it

That's what's wrong with todays standards and that's one of the reason i made this thread with a couple exaggerations and "different perspectives". Every resume can be diminished but it's so false to call the top fighters out there bad or their resumes poor at best. Not everyone has a Ali, Hearns, Pacquiao etc to shine against.

Team GGG is trying to get the best possible opponent and Ward himself said he isn't ready to face GGG nor is he ready to rematch Froch in england.

Also not everybody is a hybejob just because he has a loss or doesnt face the top p4p guys, and not every fighter is exposed because he lost a fight. Styles make fights and there's more to it. Appreciate boxers out there, no matter if they have losses on their record or they lose in a bad style matchup.

Some so called fans are destroying the sport with such a behaviour, thats why more and more fighters are becoming businessman and just fight for their pockets and no more for the fans.

[HeroBando]

golovkins opposition has been poor at best tho no matter how u spin it ducking, home country etc etc wards opposition is far far better

Its not that poor. Kessler and Abe are 2 of Wards top wins and their win ledgers prior to fighting Ward were no better

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[Pigeons]

Kessler: Which great fighters did he beat, whats up with his resume? I want to know.. i like Kessler alot but he didnt beat any elite fighter.

Kessler beat Froch and Mundine.

[SilverMiles]

Ward's resume is good but it's not that much better than GGG's. The one win that doesn't separate the two is Ward's win over Froch which about a B+ win.

The one thing the Ward fans need to understand however is that hype doesn't equate to depth. Super Middle Weight was considered a pretty weak division prior to the Super Six Tournament but , afterwards people started acting like it was the greatest division in the world.

But how great can the division have been when the best fighter in the division at that time, Mikkel Kessler, was thoroughly outclassed by Joe Calzaghe.

Not saying Ward resume isn't good but it isn't all that great either.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Golovkin fans are really reaching.

His best win is Martin Murray.

Martin Murray.

You guys need to raise your standards.

[HeroBando]

Kessler beat Froch and Mundine.

So before he fought Ward his best win was Mundine? And he's Wards 2nd best win. So why so much putting down of Gggs resume?

[Dirk Diggler UK]

So before he fought Ward his best win was Mundine? And he's Wards 2nd best win. So why so much putting down of Gggs resume?

Are you actually trying to argue that anyone on Golovkin's resume is as good as Kessler or are you just blowing hot air as usual? Cos I'm ready to watch you embarrass yourself again....

[aldo5408]

It all sounds fine and dandy on paper, but there's more to it. Every win can be diminished if you look at it from different perspectives.

Every single victory in the Super 6 was achieved in the fighter's homecountry. Froch, Abraham and Kessler all lost to Ward at his backyard, with the refs and the crowd on Wards side.
Would have Ward won vs Froch in England, would he have won vs Kessler in Denmark? Ward had the chance to prove he can defeat Froch in Nottingham, but he ducked the rematch.

Abraham was a good middleweight but he has no business at 168, the loss to Dirrell showed all his flaws, also Abraham didnt have the luxury to fight vs Ward in germany where he performs much better.

Dawson was totally weight drained and his mental state is questionable. If Ward fought him at 175, it would have earned him alot of respect.

Kessler: Which great fighters did he beat, whats up with his resume? I want to know.. i like Kessler alot but he didnt beat any elite fighter.

Gaele triple ducks best win was a former title holder gg has never fought a champion in his division