HBO rejects Ward/Oosthuizen

[aldo5408]

What's your point? They all had decent momentum going into their fight with Golovkin. They all had some quality performances in title fights prior to Golovkin (exception being Rosado, who had a quality performance vs Quillin just 9 months after Golovkin).

Oosthuizen has never in his career had a quality peformance vs a top 10 SMW.

Decent Momentum? Lol ward smashed on the super six CHAMPIONS not vs fighters had had decent momentum

[Eastcoast]

Decent Momentum? Lol ward smashed on the super six CHAMPIONS not vs fighters had had decent momentum

Why are earth do you bring that up? Very tangent to the conversation...

The debate was Oosthuizen in comparison to Golovkin's top opponents. No ones debating Golovkin's opponents to Ward's wins over Kessler, Froch, and Abraham, so sit back down.

[MDPopescu]

... ward smashed on the super six CHAMPIONS not vs fighters had had decent momentum

... then let them make a "Super Six" at the Middleweight, feed them to Golovkin and then just watch... Tell us later what you found out...

[ИATAS]

I think it comes down to the same reason that HBO didn't sign both Stevenson and Kovalev to exclusive deals, when they were in the process of building to the massive Stevenson-Kovalev the first time around; they saw one fighter/promoter, so hung up on getting the HBO rub that they were more than willing to let HBO short them on the money, in the hope that, at some point in the future, their fighter will be able to make back some of the money that they missed out on, while the other fighter promoter, with a strong foreign TV market and a sizable live draw in their own right, unwilling to take HBO's "take it or leave it" offer without shopping around. Stevenson/GYM listened to HBO's offer, shopped around to gauge the market, found a better offer, and came back to HBO, to see if they were willing to sweeten their offer/match the market. HBO, in essence, said "go **** yourself" and the slander machine began to roll.

Ken Hershman, when he came over from Showtime, brought his star, Andre Ward with him; young guy, elite fighter, family man with no outside issues, smooth talker, and America's last Olympic gold medalist.

Helped pay him $1.4m to fight the lineal light heavyweight champion (in front of an excited home crowd of 9k), watched the Pavlik fight fall apart in front of him for Andre, and paid him $1.9m for his big return fight against Rodriguez.

Since Ward has been out, HBO has seen their viewer numbers hold steady on low-budget fights and, imo, HBO is trying to 'pull Ward's card'. The move to RocNation makes them the only customer for Ward's fights and they're putting the screws to him.

Ward made $1.9m for his last fight and, imo, HBO is trying to punk him into dropping a million off of that for his next fight on their airwaves, less money than what Ward earned in the Froch fight on Showtime (where he staked his claim to the division).

So essentially what's you're saying is it boils down to money and that at this time, HBO isn't willing to pay that kind of money for this particular opponent. Jesus ****ing Christ man.

[aldo5408]

Why are earth do you bring that up? Very tangent to the conversation...

The debate was Oosthuizen in comparison to Golovkin's top opponents. No ones debating Golovkin's opponents to Ward's wins over Kessler, Froch, and Abraham, so sit back down.

Hey rodriguez was coming from a decent momentum victory too. However ward beat a real champion in Chad dawson.

[Pigeons]

... then let them make a "Super Six" at the Middleweight, feed them to Golovkin and then just watch... Tell us later what you found out...

No one at MW is of the quality of Kessler or Froch. I'm not even sure the 2nd best MW (Quillin) measures up to Abraham.

[Hype job]

Good stuff HBO, not taking nothin' from these extorting clowns.

[ИATAS]

Current BoxRec ranking of above mentioned fighters.
Proksa #49 MW
Rosado #39 JMW
Macklin #33 MW
Geale #7 MW
Rubio #15 MW
Murray #14 MW

Really bizarre to post what their rankings are NOW. They were all top 10 middleweights (Murray, Macklin, Geale, Rubio, Proksa) when GGG fought them, with the exception of Rosado.

[Jim Jeffries]

He likes to write essays in people's karma messages too.

Yeah I don't mind a sprinkle of red amongst all the green, but I could probably do without the half page of mindless drivel.

I don't want Andre Ward to fight Oosthuzien. I want him to fight Froch, Golovkin, the Dirrell brothers, and Kovalev.

So no tune up necessary then? Been wanting to see Ward/Andre Dirrell for years. Froch would be okay, but only in England. Kovalev or Stevenson would be great, but Ward seems more concerned with dragging up MWs to fight him. But only after a couple of tune ups at 2 mill a pop. #2 p4p doe. Well at least he used to be.

Current BoxRec ranking of above mentioned fighters.
Proksa #49 MW
Rosado #39 JMW
Macklin #33 MW
Geale #7 MW
Rubio #15 MW
Murray #14 MW

Yeah I'm not sure which is more absurd. Posting Boxrec rankings, or current rankings (as opposed to when he fought them.) You did both.

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Current BoxRec ranking of above mentioned fighters.
Proksa #49 MW
Rosado #39 JMW
Macklin #33 MW
Geale #7 MW
Rubio #15 MW
Murray #14 MW

as you already know, nobody pays attention to boxrecs automated rankings, but keep up the good fight. If they win it's like you won!