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  • Yaconcha
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    #101
    i think floyd will alter his speed from the start. this will not allow manny to judge how to time his counters. lets not forget freddie boy, this is a ring master not a ko artist. failing the gameplan? oh yeah, juan manuel marquez knocked pacman the fack out in a single shot.

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    • Yaconcha
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      #102
      floyd mayweather by a total landslide with a lesson in the art of boxing which will show freddie how the job really gets done. how anybody thinks pacman would win or will win ever has always baffled me.
      yes hes beaten top blokes at the different weights but, none were fmj. he wont win. no chance.

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        #103
        Originally posted by mastertech1985
        Mosley was 1-1-1 in his last fight with Pacquaio....also didn't have an impressive showing in years


        Cotto....got beatdown by Margo and barely beat Clottey, then Manny decides to fight him....that was no ordinary drubbing Cotto took from Cheato


        Hatton.....hadn't looked impressive in long time....getting rocked by fringe 140 contender Juan Lazcano, beat average Malignaggi, and got KTFO by Mayweather before those average showings.



        Morales.....they refused to let him have a catchweight in fight 2 even though he won the first fight. Zahir Raheem beat him at 135 so they knew he couldn't make 130 anymore healthy and be effective.


        Most of Pacquaio's elite competition were coming off of bad showings, losses, or career changing type losses when he faces them.....notice the pattern


        the names sound great on your record, but you have to take in account when he fights these guys. that's smoke and mirror type stuff

        I never saw his run as some unseen spectacle, although impressive...Jimmy McClarnin(started at 112), Kid Gavilan (118), duran(low 120s), etc all started at low weights and regularly beat world class guys above welterweight and actually won the one, true welterweight title and beat middleweights. He has been a welter for a longtime and this is his first time fighting the number one welterweight.
        Manny did fight a lot of top guys after losses landslide losses or beatings and looking average doe...when u beat guys does matter

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        • oneon11
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          #104
          Not only is Freddie ignorant but the boy can't add either. How did Oscar win 6rds and lose? Oscar loss because the judges saw that BS he was doing like throwing a bunch of punches that didn't land. Same will happen to Pacroid who throws a lot of punches that don't connect. That's why Bradley whooped that zza by Pacroid throwing wild punches that had the crowd cheering but the judges zaw through that BS and saw maybe one or two shots grazed Bradley. Freddie is scared to death about this fight and it shows. I've never seen this bum talk and talk the contradict his comments over and over. Face it, without Pacroid magical juice he's just an c level fighter.

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            #105
            Originally posted by micky1971
            floyd mayweather by a total landslide with a lesson in the art of boxing which will show freddie how the job really gets done. how anybody thinks pacman would win or will win ever has always baffled me.
            yes hes beaten top blokes at the different weights but, none were fmj. he wont win. no chance.
            dont be a ******

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            • D4thincarnation
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              #106
              Originally posted by therealpugilist
              Manny did fight a lot of top guys after losses landslide losses or beatings and looking average doe...when u beat guys does matter
              Floyd times his cherry picking to perfection though.

              Mosley: Past prime, Not taking PEDs anymore and after losses to Cotto and a dismal display against Mayorga. Only manage to beat Marg due to the fact Marg was weight drained and had the plaster stripped from his gloves.

              Ortiz: Drew with Cheaterson and after Maidana made him his adoptive son.

              Cotto: Only took on Miguel after Margarito and then Pacquiao severely brutalized him. Before then it was Puerto Rico was too far away.


              Robert Guerrero: Fought no one of note at Welter or light welter for that matter. Even got easily beat by Salido

              Saul Alvarez: Unbeaten yes, but this guy struggled with Mathew Hatton, yes Mathew Hatton. Very green and it showed in the fight.

              Marcos Rene Maidana: After Khan beat him and took his power, yes Amir Khan took his power. And after he got taken to school by Alexander 12 rounds shut out.

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              • mastertech1985
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                #107
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                Floyd times his cherry picking to perfection though.

                Mosley: Past prime, Not taking PEDs anymore and after losses to Cotto and a dismal display against Mayorga. Only manage to beat Marg due to the fact Marg was weight drained and had the plaster stripped from his gloves.

                Ortiz: Drew with Cheaterson and after Maidana made him his adoptive son.

                Cotto: Only took on Miguel after Margarito and then Pacquiao severely brutalized him. Before then it was Puerto Rico was too far away.


                Robert Guerrero: Fought no one of note at Welter or light welter for that matter. Even got easily beat by Salido

                Saul Alvarez: Unbeaten yes, but this guy struggled with Mathew Hatton, yes Mathew Hatton. Very green and it showed in the fight.

                Marcos Rene Maidana: After Khan beat him and took his power, yes Amir Khan took his power. And after he got taken to school by Alexander 12 rounds shut out.

                Mayweather fights most of his opponents after career defining wins, or career reviving wins




                Mosley was coming of the win over Margarito and ktfo OF HIM


                Maidana just won the wba belt was looking better and better in last few fights after getting beat by Alexander


                Ortiz just had beat Berto and revived his career

                Guerrero hadn't lost a fight in years and avenged his loss by ko and had big wins prior to facing Mayweather


                Miguel was on his winning streak and avenged his lose to Margarito and won a world title




                no matter how you slice it, Mayweather fights guys at better times in their career's and after great showings, most times
                Last edited by mastertech1985; 03-21-2015, 06:00 PM.

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by mastertech1985

                  Mayweather fights most of his opponents after career defining wins, or career reviving wins


                  Mosley was coming of the win over Margarito and ktfo OF HIM


                  17 month of that fight, Mosley ring rusty and been training for 7 months straight, very over trained.

                  Maidana just won the wba belt was looking better and better in last few fights after getting beat by Alexander
                  Broner who barely beat Paulie Malignaggi. Cherry pick upon Cherry picks

                  Ortiz just had beat Berto and revived his career
                  Berto Who the hell is he. Nothing even with his PEDs

                  Guerrero hadn't lost a fight in years and avenged his loss by ko and had big wins prior to facing Mayweather


                  The guy had done thing at welter, unless you think Berto is some kind of big scalp. You do don't you?


                  Miguel was on his winning streak and avenged his lose to Margarito and won a world title
                  Miguel was feasting on Pacquiao's leftovers, Pacquiao ended Margaritos career, broke his orbital and took his eye. Cotto just targeted the eye.

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                  • mastertech1985
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    17 month of that fight, Mosley ring rusty and been training for 7 months straight, very over trained.



                    Broner who barely beat Paulie Malignaggi. Cherry pick upon Cherry picks



                    Berto Who the hell is he. Nothing even with his PEDs



                    The guy had done thing at welter, unless you think Berto is some kind of big scalp. You do don't you?




                    Miguel was feasting on Pacquiao's leftovers, Pacquiao ended Margaritos career, broke his orbital and took his eye. Cotto just targeted the eye.
                    nobody made excuses for Floyd when he was off for 12 months or more at a time and he came back and was/is still winning



                    Berto has done more than both JMM and Bradley at welterweight, even though both have fought better overall comp in their careers because they started at lower weights...Berto is a career long welterweight

                    @ ww.....Juan Manuel Marquez beat a long in the tooth Alvarado who did nothing @ ww, and kayoed Manny.....he got whitewashed by Floyd and Bradley beat him clearly


                    Bradley....got beat to a pulp by an unranked Provo***ov who is wholly average, drew with Diego Chaves who has lost all of his big fights, got a robbery win over Pac, and just lost a clear decision to Manny last April


                    Berto won the WBC and IBF titles...has wins over former titleholders Carlos Quintana, Luis Collazo, Juan Urango, Jan Zaveck, and Steve Forbes



                    His body of work trumps having one name on a very thin ledger



                    Berto was never an all-time great....He always reminded me of a water-down sugar shane mosley....a physically gifted Brawler.....his speed gives off the impression that he is a boxer. He doesn't have that chin, or toughness Mosley had.

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