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  • D4thincarnation
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    #81
    Originally posted by cameltoe
    Oscar won 6 rounds? No he didn't. If anything, the scores were tough on Floyd. Should have been a clear UD.
    Roach means Oscar won the the first half of the fight and lost the 2nd half.

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    • SkillspayBills
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      #82
      It's like Roach thinks Pac is going to magically turn into another fighter. Manny's flaws are the same they have been for 10 years. I would know I've watched all his fights since Morales for the last 3 weeks.

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        #83
        Originally posted by SkillspayBills
        It's like Roach thinks Pac is going to magically turn into another fighter. Manny's flaws are the same they have been for 10 years. I would know I've watched all his fights since Morales for the last 3 weeks.
        You watched all his fights, but you think Pacquiao is the same fighter and hasn't learned nothing.

        I guess you are beyond help

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          #84
          Originally posted by D4thincarnation
          Roach means Oscar won the the first half of the fight and lost the 2nd half.
          no...what he should mean is he probably won 3-4 rounds in the first 2/3 of the fight and after that it was pretty clear who had the edge. Mayweather took away Oscar de La Hoya's aggression and jab with timely counters, body shots, and jabbing with Oscar or countering it.....see that's the thing. Manny doesn't turn fights around like that mid fight. Mayweather adapts on the fly



          Its been so funny hearing people say things like " fighter A can gave or will give fighter B problems"


          Its not about moral victories, giving it a good go, or any of that....its about winning and I don't teach my pupils and didn't gain anything from" giving someone problems"....its still a loss

          this isn't about winning a few unexpected rounds, or giving rounds away because a fighter is having more success than everyone expected. That's not how fights are scored. its ring generalship( accuracy, defense and controlling the geography of the fight), clean punching, and defense

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            #85
            Floyd will never lose to someone the same size as him. Only way he takes an L is by going up to 154 or 160. Manny, expect a 10-2 9-3 sort of affair.

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              #86
              Originally posted by mastertech1985
              no...what he should mean is he probably won 3-4 rounds in the first 2/3 of the fight and after that it was pretty clear who had the edge. Mayweather took away Oscar de La Hoya's aggression and jab with timely counters, body shots, and jabbing with Oscar or countering it.....see that's the thing. Manny doesn't turn fights around like that mid fight. Mayweather adapts on the fly



              Its been so funny hearing people say things like " fighter A can gave or will give fighter B problems"


              Its not about moral victories, giving it a good go, or any of that....its about winning and I don't teach my pupils and didn't gain anything from" giving someone problems"....its still a loss

              this isn't about winning a few unexpected rounds, or giving rounds away because a fighter is having more success than everyone expected. That's not how fights are scored. its ring generalship( accuracy, defense and controlling the geography of the fight), clean punching, and defense

              Oscar was old and shot and a part time fighter.

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                #87
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                Oscar was old and shot and a part time fighter.
                what was he when Pacquaio fought him??? Older...shot(er)...and fought less.... fought in at weight he hadn't made in almost a decade, that was his own fault though.

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by mastertech1985
                  what was he when Pacquaio fought him??? Older...shot(er)...and fought less.... fought in at weight he hadn't made in almost a decade, that was his own fault though.
                  Yes he was old and shot then too, and Pacquiao made him look that way. Floyd struggled.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by SkillspayBills
                    Floyd will never lose to someone the same size as him. Only way he takes an L is by going up to 154 or 160. Manny, expect a 10-2 9-3 sort of affair.
                    Castillo already beat him.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by tredh
                      Its one thing to have sparring partners that mimick Floyd's style and there is no way in the world to have a sparring partners that think like Floyd does.

                      I get what Roach is saying but to say he is not falling for the traps in camps is just dumb.
                      Vice versa. It's one thing to say things like, "Manny makes mistakes, look at how so and so did this", and it's another thing being in the ring with him, and actually feeling his speed, and power. Bradley thought he knew how to deal with and handle Pac, but once he got in the ring, he couldn't follow through on it.

                      Floyd moves nowhere as much as Bradley, and if he's forced to exert more energy, he's gonna gas.

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