Comments Thread For: Roach: Pacquiao Won't Fall For Mayweather's Traps

[mastertech1985]

Oscar was old and shot and a part time fighter.

Mosley was 1-1-1 in his last fight with Pacquaio....also didn't have an impressive showing in years


Cotto....got beatdown by Margo and barely beat Clottey, then Manny decides to fight him....that was no ordinary drubbing Cotto took from Cheato


Hatton.....hadn't looked impressive in long time....getting rocked by fringe 140 contender Juan Lazcano, beat average Malignaggi, and got KTFO by Mayweather before those average showings.



Morales.....they refused to let him have a catchweight in fight 2 even though he won the first fight. Zahir Raheem beat him at 135 so they knew he couldn't make 130 anymore healthy and be effective.

Most of Pacquaio's elite competition were coming off of bad showings, losses, or career changing type losses when he faces them.....notice the pattern


the names sound great on your record, but you have to take in account when he fights these guys. that's smoke and mirror type stuff

I never saw his run as some unseen spectacle, although impressive...Jimmy McClarnin(started at 112), Kid Gavilan (118), duran(low 120s), etc all started at low weights and regularly beat world class guys above welterweight and actually won the one, true welterweight title and beat middleweights. He has been a welter for a longtime and this is his first time fighting the number one welterweight.

[mathed]

lmao tim bradley is a basic fighter with no power

dude has done nothing @ 147 except almost get retired by a ESPN glorified sparraing partner, and get a draw against diego chaves

If you think that fight with Chaves was a draw, you are crazy. He dropped maybe 3 or 4 rounds tops...got cheated. You think Floyd really deserved a SD against Canelo in that fight too?

[mathed]

Vice versa. It's one thing to say things like, "Manny makes mistakes, look at how so and so did this", and it's another thing being in the ring with him, and actually feeling his speed, and power. Bradley thought he knew how to deal with and handle Pac, but once he got in the ring, he couldn't follow through on it.

Floyd moves nowhere as much as Bradley, and if he's forced to exert more energy, he's gonna gas.

People want to say Bradley is limited but even in defeat, he is the only guy able to leave a fight with Pac not beaten to complete crap or dropped numerous times in the fight. Floyd better be able to duck like Bradley does or he is going to get touched up, that shoulder roll isn't going to work.

[BlackSoul]

Floyd will never lose to someone the same size as him. Only way he takes an L is by going up to 154 or 160. Manny, expect a 10-2 9-3 sort of affair.

same as i see it

[mathed]

if that's the case, Roach would have never brought up that trap's floyds sets. Obviously he struggling with game planning having lost to Mayweather in the past, getting his ass kicked by Roger in sparring, and getting pissed on by SR.


Floyd has won every fight and adapts on the flight...Might as well call Manny the fight series king, because he never was the best at changing tactics mid-fight, which is why he lost the fights he has .....2 fights with Barrera, 2 with Bradley, 3 fights with Morales, 4 with Juan Manuel Marquez.....It doesn't take Floyd 3-4 tries and 10 years to figure an opponent out and beat them clearly




You know deep down inside that Manny's only way of winning is by a knockout....he isn't outboxing Mayweather for 12 rounds and dude hasn't scored a kayo in over 5 years.....I know you hope Manny wins, but he wont....just like every other "threat" that yall pulled out of your rears...Canelo, ODLH, Cotto, Juan Manuel Marquez, Hatton....he beats them, then comes the ready made excuses

LOL, what stuff you been smoking man? Pac never lost to Barrera, he UD'd him the first time and stopped him in the rematch; destroyed Morales in the rematch and rubber match; won the second, third, and should have gotten the win in the first JMM fights; should have won the first Bradley fight, won the rematch.

Also, Roger's dumb ass ran his mouth like a boss and then got treated like a punching bag by SRL, he ain't schit. Floyd Sr was never any good either, marginally better than Roach by professional standards. As a coach, he'd be a nobody without his kid.

Speaking of KO's, Floyd is on a 6 year drought which is why he brought in the king of steroid creation, Heroidia. Just because you want to try and recreate history, that's not going to save Floyd from this beating. Floyd is about to see what it's like to get smacked around May 2nd.

[DadeCounty305]

It sure killed Marquez' timing, didn't it? Oh wait...

You talking about when he tripped over JMM left foot and fell right into the timing hail mary punch. Pac was killing JMM before he was KO. So yes, his timing was kiiling JMM. JMM said after the fight he was about to get KO.

[DadeCounty305]

Mosley was 1-1-1 in his last fight with Pacquaio....also didn't have an impressive showing in years


Cotto....got beatdown by Margo and barely beat Clottey, then Manny decides to fight him....that was no ordinary drubbing Cotto took from Cheato


Hatton.....hadn't looked impressive in long time....getting rocked by fringe 140 contender Juan Lazcano, beat average Malignaggi, and got KTFO by Mayweather before those average showings.



Morales.....they refused to let him have a catchweight in fight 2 even though he won the first fight. Zahir Raheem beat him at 135 so they knew he couldn't make 130 anymore healthy and be effective.

Most of Pacquaio's elite competition were coming off of bad showings, losses, or career changing type losses when he faces them.....notice the pattern


the names sound great on your record, but you have to take in account when he fights these guys. that's smoke and mirror type stuff

I never saw his run as some unseen spectacle, although impressive...Jimmy McClarnin(started at 112), Kid Gavilan (118), duran(low 120s), etc all started at low weights and regularly beat world class guys above welterweight and actually won the one, true welterweight title and beat middleweights. He has been a welter for a longtime and this is his first time fighting the number one welterweight.

So what you're saying is... Manny should've lost to TB, Rios and CA right. Because he was coming off a "lost" to TB and he got K the f out vs JMM. Dude quit making excuses. Manny DESTROYED his and May common opponents. Quit hating bruh. May 2 is 47-1 day. I hope his TEN sparring partners has Pacman down to the T. #WarManny

[CatchAndShoot]

People want to say Bradley is limited but even in defeat, he is the only guy able to leave a fight with Pac not beaten to complete crap or dropped numerous times in the fight. Floyd better be able to duck like Bradley does or he is going to get touched up, that shoulder roll isn't going to work.

Yep, the only way you're gonna beat Manny is by willingly going through hell, or being able to move with him. Floyd is too erect, and can't move with him, and he's way too defensive, and not a go through hell and back type of counter puncher like JMM or Morales.

People are gonna be so shocked on May 2nd. Talk all you want, but when Manny wins, don't be surprised.

[Don Mac]

I think Floyd is going to hurt Manny early on. after a few rounds he is going to stop Manny going forward. Floyd puts him on the back foot and Manny cant fight going backwards. Pot shot after potshot and a UD

Actually I hope Im wrong and Manny just swarms him into submission.

I guess it depends on which Manny shows up on fightnight

[CatchAndShoot]

I think Floyd is going to hurt Manny early on. after a few rounds he is going to stop Manny going forward. Floyd puts him on the back foot and Manny cant fight going backwards. Pot shot after potshot and a UD

Actually I hope Im wrong and Manny just swarms him into submission.

I guess it depends on which Manny shows up on fightnight

Manny doesn't back up in a straight line. He angles out, and dips and dodges. If Floyd tries to back him down like he did against Ortiz, and others, he's gonna look dumb.

People really don't understand how hard its gonna be if Floyd tries to back him down. It'll be wasted effort. If Floyd wants his best success, just try and outbox him in the center of the ring with his reach.