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  • MrRolltide91
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    #161
    Originally posted by HanzGruber
    Let's see if any pac fans try to spin it somehow lol. Na mang floyd is scared. Arum is just being nice for floydie

    There's really no discussion to be had anymore. Leonard is smart. Koncz is a dumbass
    Plus why would anybody limit themselves to 5 million?

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    • Rath
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      #162
      Originally posted by Sugar Q
      Once again here's the link: https://********/3lMLg8jluKM
      Go to 1:18
      first of I said we are discussing this article (and it is not anywhere there) and not the link.

      make a thread about this link and then we discuss it there.

      CLEAR or NOT?

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      • AgainstTheRopes
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        #163
        I see this more as Mayweather not wanting to get dictated terms by the B-side then being worried he gets caught. Petty and another lousy contradiction by Mayweather who wants to clear up the sport when he's working with Ariza and has Heredia in his camp.

        Just not a good look for him or the sport

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        • JJRod
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          #164
          Originally posted by Bolopunch68
          So why not agreeing for the 5 mil penalty then? 4 years ban, plus 5 mil on top of that ban is limiting the liability? Only ****** people don't get that.
          Let me explain in simple terms why this limits the liability.
          If say Pacquaio were to test positive and the fight canceled, Pacquiao would get a 4 year ban but only have to pay Floyd 5 million. Why does this limited? Because he would stand to make upwards of 100 million had the fight taken place.

          Obviously in the event the fight doesn't take place because of drug testing Mayweather wants to be sure he gets more than 5 million dollars.

          And this applies to Pac as well. If it's Mayweather who test dirty and the fight gets canceled, Pacquiao is going to want more than simply 5 million dollars, since he stands to make over 80 million for the fight.

          Get it now?
          Last edited by JJRod; 03-19-2015, 10:38 PM.

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          • Bolopunch68
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            #165
            Originally posted by Sugar Q
            This is for ****** people like those that don't understand why Team Floyd won't agree on the 5 million penalty.

            https://********/3lMLg8jluKM go to 1:18
            Ok, clearly stated by Arum that both camp didn't include those terms in the contract because "they want more than 5 mil if Manny test positive" and vice versa. So, what's the big deal? If Manny tested positive he not only going to pay the 5 mil but more, plus his reputation will be ruin. Isn't that the right card to play to smack Manny and his team on their faces if Manny tested positive? If they truly believe Manny will pop positive why not accepting the 5 mil and don't include it in the excisting contract. It's like a side bet.

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            • HanzGruber
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              #166
              Originally posted by MrRolltide91
              Plus why would anybody limit themselves to 5 million?
              In pacland getting 5 mil instead of tens of millions or whatever the number would be is a good idea.

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              • NapalmKnuckles
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                #167
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                Maybe I read it wrong, but I took it like this.....

                Koncz : the penalty for either athlete testing positive will be $5mil

                Ellerbe : are you fkn serious? My guy stands to make 120mil+ here. If you fakk this fight up by testing positive, the lawsuit that we will file against Pacquiao will start at $50mil, and go upwards from there.

                I will not allow you to limit the extent of our litigation against you to $5mil, should you test positive.

                No ?
                That's how I interpreted it.

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                • MrRolltide91
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by AgainstTheRopes
                  I see this more as Mayweather not wanting to get dictated terms by the B-side then being worried he gets caught. Petty and another lousy contradiction by Mayweather who wants to clear up the sport when he's working with Ariza and has Heredia in his camp.

                  Just not a good look for him or the sport
                  Go to 1:15

                  Even arum agreed with floyd


                  http://********/3lMLg8jluKM

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                  • AgainstTheRopes
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by jrrod02
                    Let me explain in simple terms why this limits the liability.
                    If say Pacquaio were to test positive and the fight canceled, Pacquiao would get a 4 year ban but only have to pay Floyd 5 million. Why does this limited? Because he would stand to make upwards of 100 million had the fight taken place.

                    Obviously in the event the fight doesn't take place because of drug testing Mayweather wants to be sure he gets more than 5 million dollars.

                    And this applies to Pac as well. If it's Mayweather who test dirty and the fight gets canceled, Pacquiao is going to want more than simply 5 million dollars, since he stands to make over 80 million for the fight.

                    Get it now?
                    This is like Barry Bonds and Mark McGwire coming together to suggest that MLB suspend and fine PED users.

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                    • SchoolTheseCats
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Bolopunch68
                      Ok, clearly stated by Arum that both camp didn't include those terms in the contract because "they want more than 5 mil if Manny test positive" and vice versa. So, what's the big deal? If Manny tested positive he not only going to pay the 5 mil but more, plus his reputation will be ruin. Isn't that the right card to play to smack Manny and his team on their faces if Manny tested positive? If they truly believe Manny will pop positive why not accepting the 5 mil and don't include it in the excisting contract. It's like a side bet.
                      Koncz wanted it in contract which would of limited liability since it's written you can't sue on top of that bro its agreed upon it wasn't side bet deal or anything

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