Comments Thread For: Ellerbe, Koncz Trade Verbal Shots Over $5 Million Fine

[D4thincarnation]

I've saw rumor in that bout 3-4 times atleast lol and when floyd asked for manny records that's when they settle

No, when Manny subpoenaed Floyd's record the settlement came quick rather than having to respond to the subpoena.

Why do you think that was?

[Fetta]

Can a unbias poster explain this to me?????

Koncz is over his head here.

Apparently didnt read contract correctly abd is trying to deflect.

Pac fans are eating it up

[mastertech1985]

http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-bo...-mess-part-one

On May 20, 2012, a rumor filtered through the drug-testing community that Mayweather had tested positive on three occasions for an illegal performance-enhancing drug.

More specifically, it was rumored that Mayweather’s “A” sample had tested positive on three occasions and, after each positive test, USADA had found exceptional circumstances in the form of inadvertent use and gave Floyd a waiver. This waiver, according to the rumor, negated the need for a test of Floyd’s “B” sample. And because the “B” sample was never tested, a loophole in USADA’s contract with Mayweather and Golden Boy allowed the testing to proceed without the positive “A” sample results being reported to Mayweather’s opponent or the Nevada State Athletic Commission (which had jurisdiction over the fights).

In late-May, Pacquiao’s attorneys heard the rumor. On June 4, 2012, they served document demands and subpoenas on Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy and USADA calling for the production of all documents that related to PED testing of Mayweather for the Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto fights.

The documents were not produced. There was a delay in the proceedings while Floyd spent nine weeks in the Clark County Detention Center after pleading guilty to charges of domestic violence and harassment. Upon his release from jail on August 2nd, settlement talks heated up.

On September 25, 2012, a stipulation of settlement ending the defamation case was filed with the court. The parties agreed that the terms of settlement would be kept confidential. Prior to the agreement being signed, two sources with detailed knowledge of the proceedings told this writer that Mayweather’s initial monetary settlement offer was “substantially more” than Pacquiao’s attorneys had expected it would be and an agreement in principle was reached soon afterward.

you do know a rumor, is just a rumor, right? these are the facts


1) Freddie Roach, Manny's trainer, said Random blood and urine testing killed the first round of negotiations


2) Manny Pacquaio claims he is scared of needles but has tattoos

3) Ive been in the military and gave blood and did random tests as an athlete, they take far less than a pint so feeling drained is B.S and the tube is small and no thicker or longer than the average man's thumb....eating a tootsie roll or cookie replenishes what the take



4)If You are not cheating then their is no need for testing cut offs

[littlemac]

Will the 5 million dollar fine prevent them from going to court?

Ofcourse it would. Manny's team would only be liable for the fine amount

[D4thincarnation]

you do know a rumor, is just a rumor, right? these are the facts


1) Freddie Roach, Manny's trainer, said Random blood and urine testing killed the first round of negotiations


2) Manny Pacquaio claims he is scared of needles but has tattoos

3) Ive been in the military and gave blood and did random tests as an athlete, they take far less than a pint so feeling drained is B.S and the tube is small and no thicker or longer than the average man's thumb....eating a tootsie roll or cookie replenishes what the take



4)If You are not cheating then their is no need for testing cut offs

“Mayweather is not doing Olympic-style testing,” Conte states. “I’ve never liked the use of that phrase. ‘Olympic’ means 24-7-365. To be effective, drug testing has to be 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. The benefits that an athlete retains from using anabolic steroids and certain other PEDs carry over for months. That means athletes can develop their strength and speed base early and the benefits of PED use will last after that use has been discontinued. If you wait to start testing until eight to 10 weeks in advance of a fight, which is what Mayweather does, that’s not Olympic-style testing. Who knows what Mayweather or his opponent has been doing during the previous six months?”


The part about the settlement was not a rumour by the way.

What was Mayweather's record hiding?

[-Kev-]

I think that the whole point of the $5mill fine is a PR stunt from Pac's people to make Pac look clean on top of already agreeing to the stringent USADA testing. It was a good move I admit, but unnecessary to actually have such a fine. It's a bit of an overkill counter move. It's also a great topic to bring for media members who are always out to get Mayweather. "Hey, why did you reject the $5mill fine if you or Pacquiao came up positive for PED's?" Uh oh. Lol.

[luisivich]

drug fine is unnecessary..pacquiao is an idiot

arum explained it. if the fight didnt happen because of floyd failing a drug test- "we will push for litigation and sue them way more than 5 million"

[D4thincarnation]

This why Floyd didn't want NSAC testing or anyone else, could not get waivers and his dirty little secret would come out.

[texasboi15]

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[tomhawq]

the accuser turned out to be the juicer. you'd think this only happens in the movies. it's incredible!

if pac gets seriously hurt in this fight, these clowns will all go to jail. massive investigations will follow.