The Gennady Golovkin Myth

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  • LacedUp
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    #311
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    You just need to read Frochs quotes, its unmistakable. Rarely is a fighter so forthcoming, let's say
    Why are you ducking my question?

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      #312
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      he also only got hit 97 times in 12 vs Canelo. Anyways, punch stats don't mean anything. They count shots that just sniffed his shoulder ffs. I don't care what Murray says, he's not a world class fighter. And he still repeatedly hit GGG straight on the chin.

      Murray can't punch very hard so obviously GGG just smiled at him. You don't see Lara taking those kind of punches for fun. But that's of course also one of the reasons why GGG is so exciting to watch. He takes risks and doesn't fight the way eastern europeans normally fight or central asians or wherever you'd like to attest his style to.

      All i'm saying is he needs to pick up on his defense quite heavily if he was to fight someone like Froch.
      You don't have the amateur career or record he has without having a good defense. And however much it seems like he gets hit, he doesn't get hit all that cleanly. They're mostly glancing blows. These fights where he's supposedly getting hit so much, you see him post-fight and it looks like he wasn't in a fight. He's either not really getting hit, or just barely getting hit. His defense is fine when it wants to be. When he fought Stevens he was more cautious because he knew there was something with pop coming at him. I have no doubts that if he fought Froch, he would show us how good defensively he can be.

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        #313
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        You just need to read Frochs quotes, its unmistakable. Rarely is a fighter so forthcoming, let's say
        What about this?



        8.15: "Andre Ward is too much for me"

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          #314
          Originally posted by AKAcronym
          You don't have the amateur career or record he has without having a good defense. And however much it seems like he gets hit, he doesn't get hit all that cleanly. They're mostly glancing blows. These fights where he's supposedly getting hit so much, you see him post-fight and it looks like he wasn't in a fight. He's either not really getting hit, or just barely getting hit. His defense is fine when it wants to be. When he fought Stevens he was more cautious because he knew there was something with pop coming at him. I have no doubts that if he fought Froch, he would show us how good defensively he can be.
          That's biggest load of bs I've heard. Plenty fighters with awful defences had successful amateur careers. Dude, you are deluded if you don't think he gets hit cleanly often. He got hit CLEAN by Stevens, Murray and Geale. Repeatedly. Those fighters suck donkey balls and obviously he has a good chin.

          We shall see. From what I've seen he's not boxing Froch. He's too tall and long. They'd get into a war and the best man would win. But we've seen Froch KO big strong super middleweights. Golovkin would have to work extremely hard on not being nailed straight on the nose.

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            #315
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
            What about this?



            8.15: "Andre Ward is too much for me"
            Any other fighter is too much to think about when getting ready for a fight. Hey don't blame me, blame Froch for his staggering honesty. Even more shocking is he's talking about a smaller unproven guy, not bigger guy p4p #2

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              #316
              Originally posted by LacedUp
              Why are you ducking my question?
              Probably cause you forgot to post that one. The one you posted is answered by Frochs quotes

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                #317
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                That's biggest load of bs I've heard. Plenty fighters with awful defences had successful amateur careers. Dude, you are deluded if you don't think he gets hit cleanly often. He got hit CLEAN by Stevens, Murray and Geale. Repeatedly. Those fighters suck donkey balls and obviously he has a good chin.

                We shall see. From what I've seen he's not boxing Froch. He's too tall and long. They'd get into a war and the best man would win. But we've seen Froch KO big strong super middleweights. Golovkin would have to work extremely hard on not being nailed straight on the nose.
                Alright whatever man. We obviously see things different.

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                  #318
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  Any other fighter is too much to think about when getting ready for a fight. Hey don't blame me, blame Froch for his staggering honesty. Even more shocking is he's talking about a smaller unproven guy, not bigger guy p4p #2


                  You took the quotes from Froch literally when he was sitting next to a guy he hated, preparing for the biggest fight in British boxing history.

                  Yet we shouldn't take GGGs comments as gospel when he's safe in training camp preparing for a no-one-cares defense vs Geale?

                  Wow.

                  Originally posted by AKAcronym
                  Alright whatever man. We obviously see things different.
                  Yeah I see things correctly, not with tinted glasses.

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                    #319
                    Originally posted by LacedUp


                    You took the quotes from Froch literally when he was sitting next to a guy he hated, preparing for the biggest fight in British boxing history.

                    Yet we shouldn't take GGGs comments as gospel when he's safe in training camp preparing for a no-one-cares defense vs Geale?

                    Wow.



                    Yeah I see things correctly, not with tinted glasses.
                    Oh get off you're ****ing pedestal.

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                      #320
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      Any other fighter is too much to think about when getting ready for a fight. Hey don't blame me, blame Froch for his staggering honesty. Even more shocking is he's talking about a smaller unproven guy, not bigger guy p4p #2
                      You should try to get Golovkin's team to show some honesty instead of lying to the public.

                      Aren't you tired of having to attack elite fighters with stellar resumes like Froch, Cotto or Ward whilst your hero fights the Willie Munson Jr's of the world?

                      I would feel thoroughly embarrassed if I were you.

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