The Gennady Golovkin Myth

[AKAcronym]

Look i'm a GGG fan but you raise some serious questions.

Maybe they've looked at the ease with which he's been taking punches albeit from light punchers?

I wouldn't stick him in with Froch based on his Murray performance. No way. He'd get splattered in my opinion.

Lara, I mean. He sucks man. He's skillful but he sucks and I don't think they'd like to put GGG in with someone who tabs and runs. It's like Froch-Dirrell all over. It made Froch look bad even though he won and Dirrell was a girl in that ring.

I don't think HBO would like a stinker GGG fight. It doesn't go along with the GGG-Canelo match-up they'd like to make. So making a fight vs someone who GGG will demolish is better build-up for them.

Do you honestly think that as intelligent a boxer as GGG is, he would take the same approach to Froch as he did with Murray? He gets hit "so much" because what he feels coming at him isn't going to do anything. He'll take 1 to land 2. I'm sure once he felt Froch's power, he would take a much more measured approach, more so than he already does. I ****ing hate hearing that argument.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Look i'm a GGG fan but you raise some serious questions.

Maybe they've looked at the ease with which he's been taking punches albeit from light punchers?

If wouldn't stick him in with Froch based on his Murray performance. No way. He'd get splattered in my opinion.

Lara, I mean. He sucks man. He's skillful but he sucks and I don't think they'd like to put GGG in with someone who tabs and runs. It's like Froch-Dirrell all over. It made Froch look bad even though he won and Dirrell was a girl in that ring.

I don't think HBO would like a stinker GGG fight. It doesn't go along with the GGG-Canelo match-up they'd like to make. So making a fight vs a bum who GGG will demolish in seconds is better build-up for them.

Yep. It's the sort of thing that Al Haymon fighters get killed for. I'd know because I kill them for it myself.

Golovkin should be held to the same standards.

Calling out the biggest stars and then fighting this joker.

K2 claim they wanted a "slick southpaw with a cuban style" LMAO....but not one that is actually good and could pose problems.

Some rookie kid who they can **** and say "Look we beat Lara Jr! We don't need to fight the real Lara"

[dan_cov]

One step forward, five steps backwards.

When are fans going to get tired of him and his team milking this utterly pathetic division for all its worth fighting opponents of the quality Braehmer would be ashamed of handpicking?
If you're going to fight **** at least fight Lemieux or someone who has a half decent win and makes it interesting with his power alone. Willie 'Marilyn' Monroe Jr is a very green prospect with zero power and just because he dropped that punchbag whose punch resistance has totally eradicated in Brian Vera don't change a thing.

When are GGG fans going to call for him to step up? Aren't you tired of seeing him knock these total cans out in anti climatic fashion in 2 rounds?

Drop the b.s everyone is scared of him, so scared he fights 4/5 times a year!
Even if true you can't tell me Willie Jr is the best available.

Total waste of his prime and everyones time.

[AKAcronym]

One step forward, five steps backwards.

When are fans going to get tired of him and his team milking this utterly pathetic division for all its worth fighting opponents of the quality Braehmer would be ashamed of handpicking?
If you're going to fight **** at least fight Lemieux or someone who has a half decent win and makes it interesting with his power alone. Willie 'Marilyn' Monroe Jr is a very green prospect with zero power and just because he dropped that punchbag whose punch resistance has totally eradicated in Brian Vera don't change a thing.

When are GGG fans going to call for him to step up? Aren't you tired of seeing him knock these total cans out in anti climatic fashion in 2 rounds?

Drop the b.s everyone is scared of him, so scared he fights 4/5 times a year!
Even if true you can't tell me Willie Jr is the best available.

Total waste of his prime and everyones time.

Because Lemieux and everyone else are busy and wouldn't be able to fight May 16. They didn't get to fight 4 times last year so this time they're trying to. Of course with that schedule, not everyone is going to be a great opponent. But hopefully they'll end up fighting a better fighter after this one. Better to keep up to date and not say anything if you're going out of your way to type Lemieux when it's obvious he has a fight scheduled.

[LacedUp]

Do you honestly think that as intelligent a boxer as GGG is, he would take the same approach to Froch as he did with Murray? He gets hit "so much" because what he feels coming at him isn't going to do anything. He'll take 1 to land 2. I'm sure once he felt Froch's power, he would take a much more measured approach, more so than he already does. I ****ing hate hearing that argument.

Lol it's not just Murray. It's Stevens, Geale, Adama, Rosado et al. He gets hit a lot. But he does seem to have a very strong chin. However, when you are used to getting hit and not going down you can start to think you're invincible. Very bad prep for a match-up against a much harder puncher like Froch.

He clearly doesn't have the best defense. Neither does Froch which is why this fight is very intriguing. But Froch has felt stronger punchers than GGG, the same is not true the other way around.

When you're used to fighting one way your whole career, you're not just going to change it. The argument that 'of course he'll fight another way' vs someone like Froch is idiotic.

Yep. It's the sort of thing that Al Haymon fighters get killed for. I'd know because I kill them for it myself.

Golovkin should be held to the same standards.

Calling out the biggest stars and then fighting this joker.

K2 claim they wanted a "slick southpaw with a cuban style" LMAO....but not one that is actually good and could pose problems.

Some rookie kid who they can **** and say "Look we beat Lara Jr! We don't need to fight the real Lara"

No I agree. I don't think GGG would hesitate to fight Lara in an instant. He'd fight anyone I think incl. Ward.

Well if they wanted a slick southpaw with a cuban style then obviously Lara makes a lot of sense

Honestly don't know, but I would imagine it's because they want to keep him looking his most destructive. Look how much Canelo-Lara backfired.

I doubt they want the same to happen to GGG.

[LacedUp]

One step forward, five steps backwards.

When are fans going to get tired of him and his team milking this utterly pathetic division for all its worth fighting opponents of the quality Braehmer would be ashamed of handpicking?
If you're going to fight **** at least fight Lemieux or someone who has a half decent win and makes it interesting with his power alone. Willie 'Marilyn' Monroe Jr is a very green prospect with zero power and just because he dropped that punchbag whose punch resistance has totally eradicated in Brian Vera don't change a thing.

When are GGG fans going to call for him to step up? Aren't you tired of seeing him knock these total cans out in anti climatic fashion in 2 rounds?

Drop the b.s everyone is scared of him, so scared he fights 4/5 times a year!
Even if true you can't tell me Willie Jr is the best available.

Total waste of his prime and everyones time.

It's true.

Question is just who. It's not like the middleweight division is full of talent. His two biggest potential fights are against former light welterweights ffs.

But it's a dilemma, because GGG is clearly not a supermiddleweight. He's a small middleweight to begin with.

[AKAcronym]

Lol it's not just Murray. It's Stevens, Geale, Adama, Rosado et al. He gets hit a lot. But he does seem to have a very strong chin. However, when you are used to getting hit and not going down you can start to think you're invincible. Very bad prep for a match-up against a much harder puncher like Froch.

He clearly doesn't have the best defense. Neither does Froch which is why this fight is very intriguing. But Froch has felt stronger punchers than GGG, the same is not true the other way around.

When you're used to fighting one way your whole career, you're not just going to change it. The argument that 'of course he'll fight another way' vs someone like Froch is idiotic.



No I agree. I don't think GGG would hesitate to fight Lara in an instant. He'd fight anyone I think incl. Ward.

Well if they wanted a slick southpaw with a cuban style then obviously Lara makes a lot of sense

Honestly don't know, but I would imagine it's because they want to keep him looking his most destructive. Look how much Canelo-Lara backfired.

I doubt they want the same to happen to GGG.

He gets hit just as much as anyone else. Someone with his style isn't going to be some elusive guy. And he hasn't really fought this way his whole career. He didn't really fight like this early in his career. Wasn't until he paired up with Abel that he started fighting more like this. And guys end up saying his defense is better than they thought. Murray just came out and said his defense was (insert what he said-can't remember verbatim). For the sake of argument, let's look at Lara. When he fought Angulo, he got hit 143 times in 10 rounds, even though he's a "slick" southpaw. That shouldn't happen against someone like Angulo. But either way, I want those fights to happen. I hope K2 is really doing all they can but we don't know.

[dan_cov]

This guys in negotiations with another fighter, this one has an injured pinky, this one said GGG wasn't worth the risk 2 years back - There is always an excuse to justify GGG fighting yet another bum on the sheer hope he steps up next time out. 4 years later, about 20 fights on and still the record hasn't changed. Still fans are happy to pay to see him fight a string of no-hopers.
Murray, Rubio, Geale - he was going in the right direction, it was better then Willie Jr? Adamu would beat his ass!

I am out the loop, I've not even been following boxing tbh but Lemieux was a mere example.

Move up fight Groves or DeGale in the U.K and try lure Froch in.
Make Wards team an offer.
Lee v Quillin winner - Not great but meh better than Willie Jr

Anything but fighting more no-hopers with absolutely zero power at all we know will come to try survive and get stopped inside a few rounds. Everytime GGG fights its like watching a repeat.

Everytime someone good calls him out fans excuse it with bull**** about networks, weights and constant backtracking.

He is 33, had 400 amateur fights, has a world title or two and is wasting his prime fighting total duds he is 5 levels above.

A PPV fight isn't going to fall into his lap. He is not a small middleweight he weighs in on fight night at 172-175. His best bet would be move up and test the waters and put a very serious offer in to fight Froch.
One minute he is the antichrist and beats everyone from 154-175, all of a sudden he can't move up one division to face a live body. Talk about backtracking.

He is probably past his peak, he is wasting his prime.

[AKAcronym]

This guys in negotiations with another fighter, this one has an injured pinky, this one said GGG wasn't worth the risk 2 years back - There is always an excuse to justify GGG fighting yet another bum on the sheer hope he steps up next time out. 4 years later, about 20 fights on and still the record hasn't changed. Still fans are happy to pay to see him fight a string of no-hopers.
Murray, Rubio, Geale - he was going in the right direction, it was better then Willie Jr? Adamu would beat his ass!

I am out the loop, I've not even been following boxing tbh but Lemieux was a mere example.

Move up fight Groves or DeGale in the U.K and try lure Froch in.
Make Wards team an offer.
Lee v Quillin winner - Not great but meh better than Willie Jr

Anything but fighting more no-hopers with absolutely zero power at all we know will come to try survive and get stopped inside a few rounds. Everytime GGG fights its like watching a repeat.

Everytime someone good calls him out fans excuse it with bull**** about networks, weights and constant backtracking.

He is 33, had 400 amateur fights, has a world title or two and is wasting his prime fighting total duds he is 5 levels above.

A PPV fight isn't going to fall into his lap. He is not a small middleweight he weighs in on fight night at 172-175. His best bet would be move up and test the waters and put a very serious offer in to fight Froch.
One minute he is the antichrist and beats everyone from 154-175, all of a sudden he can't move up one division to face a live body. Talk about backtracking.

He is probably past his peak, he is wasting his prime.

I'm sure they'll try to figure out something with the Lee-Quillin winner. It'll most likely be easier to make the fight if Lee wins but either way a lot of pressure will be put on Quillin now more than ever if he wins. And there's no guarantee if he moves up he'll get fights. Yeah guys have mentioned him but they got their own domestic fights to worry about for the foreseeable future. And Roc Nation CEO just recently said that a fight with Golovkin has to make economic sense as well; also, Virgil just said that he wouldn't want this fight to happen yet either because he feels it would be premature because this fight could be a lot bigger down the line where both guys could make a lot more money. Like I've said numerous times, I want all these fights to happen. But some, for the time being, don't seem plausible for various reasons. Loeffler has a good relationship with Hearn and sometimes it'll seem like Hearn is leaning towards it then other times not. I don't know. I'm not some GGG apologist or some ****. I want to see him in the best fights possible too. I don't know what's going on behind the scenes and am trying to be optimistic.

[HeroBando]

This guys in negotiations with another fighter, this one has an injured pinky, this one said GGG wasn't worth the risk 2 years back - There is always an excuse to justify GGG fighting yet another bum on the sheer hope he steps up next time out. 4 years later, about 20 fights on and still the record hasn't changed. Still fans are happy to pay to see him fight a string of no-hopers.
Murray, Rubio, Geale - he was going in the right direction, it was better then Willie Jr? Adamu would beat his ass!

I am out the loop, I've not even been following boxing tbh but Lemieux was a mere example.

Move up fight Groves or DeGale in the U.K and try lure Froch in.
Make Wards team an offer.
Lee v Quillin winner - Not great but meh better than Willie Jr

Anything but fighting more no-hopers with absolutely zero power at all we know will come to try survive and get stopped inside a few rounds. Everytime GGG fights its like watching a repeat.

Everytime someone good calls him out fans excuse it with bull**** about networks, weights and constant backtracking.

He is 33, had 400 amateur fights, has a world title or two and is wasting his prime fighting total duds he is 5 levels above.

A PPV fight isn't going to fall into his lap. He is not a small middleweight he weighs in on fight night at 172-175. His best bet would be move up and test the waters and put a very serious offer in to fight Froch.
One minute he is the antichrist and beats everyone from 154-175, all of a sudden he can't move up one division to face a live body. Talk about backtracking.

He is probably past his peak, he is wasting his prime.

Come on man, how can a guy with career high of 900k make an offer to someone that last made 10m pounds or whatever? Be realistic. They offered to fight Froch in the UK where Froch brings the money, and you know what they got back? "We'll swerve him if we can, punches like a mule, dangerous fight"