Comments Thread For: Mayweather-Pacquiao: Manny Has First Random Drug Test

[creekrat77]

Are you kidding me ?

The primary concern outlined in the Pacquiao lawsuit was defamation.

There is a far clearer case for suing Paulie because he flat out stated on national TV on numerous occasions..... that Pacquiao is a steroid cheat.

No if's, and's, or but's.

Malignaggi defamed Pacquiao FAR worse than Mayweather.

This guy is a reasonably high profile commentator, with a following.

I tell you what, I will give you guys a hand with this.......

Lets walk through it slowly.

FACT 1: Pacquiao stated that he levelled a lawsuit against Mayweather, and the reason given was, for defamation

FACT 2: Malignaggi defamed Pacquiao FAR worse than Mayweather did

FACT 3: Pacquiao did not sue Malignaggi

Add up those 3 facts, and it becomes plainly clear that Pacquiao did not sue Mayweather for defamation.

It is plainly obvious that if the real reason behind the lawsuit was defamation, then Paulie would have been included, as would a number of others..... plainly obvious.

Now, anyone wanna know why ?

This is easy man, no story-telling, just plain ol common-sense, as above.

Anyone interested why ?

Or better yet, is there anybody out there who knows, or can guess ?

So what Pac's team spend an ample amount of time wasting money on lawyers to sue Paulie? What next? Does Pac's team have to sue every high affiliated boxer that thinks he has used steroids? Paulie flaps his guinea lips away but he has and never will have any proof of anything. The only thing he can come up with is "How could a lower weight guy like Pac come up and stop a brute like Cotto in a fashion more impressive then other lesser foes at featherweight?" Well that's easy. Has Paulie ever taken into consideration that Cotto and other Welters are slower and stand as much larger targets? That can't be said for the likes of Morales or Marquez. Pacquiao didn't demolish Cotto and Margarito because he was stronger, he demolished them because he landed thousands of punches flush on their face. Pacquiao's speed was too much, and he just made sure to initiate the exchanges first and be the aggressor while keeping it in the middle of the ring. Pacquiaos style used to predicate on overwhelming his opponents. As did Amir Khans under Roach's guidance, until his weak chin gave him quibbles.
Then Paulies first line of defense "how does a guy gain that much weight in a successful career like that?!" Because he started as a malnourished adolescent at 15 or 16. Floyd was fighting probably at a much lower weight too at 16 in the amateurs. Pacquiao is still tiny as a welterweight, the guy has to eat tons of protein just to hold 147 lbs on his frame in training camp.

Paulie is severely bitter on his own short comings in his career and thinks he was overshadowed and wasn't appreciated as the perceived elite fighter he was. Truth is Paulie was a very very mediocre fighter. Plenty of heart and good chin, but very weak offense and defense that only works with him twitching in wigging out like a squirrelly crack head in the ring. Now he blames his lack of managerial guidance as he thinks he wasn't treated as the real celebrity he was and thinks he is, and resorting to dismissing Pacquiao as a whole.

[DeadLikeMe]

This question is getting avoided.

Why didn't floyd sue HBO?

Sue them for what?

[creekrat77]

This question is getting avoided.

Why didn't floyd sue HBO?

Because Floyd's career has been built on an unblemished clean record with his sober responsible self at the helm of his own destiny. He isn't personable or honest to the media and certainly not fans. Just repeats the same self appreciative jargon to the point where casuals here steroid allegations for Floyd and it just goes through one ear and out the other. Suing HBO would draw to much attention to the issue and he and Al's style of solving these controversies is distancing themselves from it and making the media oversaturated with tabloid cr*p and misinformation. The more headlines he and Al can create about Floyd Mayweather not involving assault and battery and steroid allegations the much more minimal it becomes to Floyds perceived character.

[TommyToughNuts]

I hope one of these two guys test positive for a steroid and the whole event get cancelled.

[aboutfkntime]

Because Pacquiao's team found out about Floyd's failed drug tests.

Thats why Floyd settled

The question was.....

Why didn't Manny (Top Rank) sue Malignaggi for defamation ?

Manny (Top Rank) sued Mayweather for defamation, but they did not sue Paulie for defamation, despite Paulie defaming Pacquiao FAR worse than Mayweather did ?

Why ?

[aboutfkntime]

So what Pac's team spend an ample amount of time wasting money on lawyers to sue Paulie? What next? Does Pac's team have to sue every high affiliated boxer that thinks he has used steroids?

YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, they do...... that is the WHOLE POINT of a defamation suit LOLLLLL

You say " wasting money "..... for some strange reason.

Dude, you sue for damages/costs..... there is no " wasting money ".

There was a defamation suit pending.

How expensive is it to simply add Paulies name to the list LOL

You have missed the point, completely.....

They sued Mayweather for defamation, but did not sue Paulie, despite him defaming Pacquiao FAR WORSE.

So, if defamation is the real motivation, then OBVIOUSLY Paulie would be included, because he defamed Pac far worse.

You indirectly proved my point.

[creekrat77]

YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, they do...... that is the WHOLE POINT of a defamation suit LOLLLLL

You say " wasting money "..... for some strange reason.

Dude, you sue for damages/costs..... there is no " wasting money ".

There was a defamation suit pending.

How expensive is it to simply add Paulies name to the list LOL

You have missed the point, completely.....

They sued Mayweather for defamation, but did not sue Paulie, despite him defaming Pacquiao FAR WORSE.

So, if defamation is the real motivation, then OBVIOUSLY Paulie would be included, because he defamed Pac far worse.

You indirectly proved my point.

How do you place a monetary value on what Paulie did? The rigor moral and wasted money Pac's team would have to go through to get Paulie in a court room for defamation over youtube videos would pan out to a wasted effort. You just don't get it. Suing a sports personality who is part of a larger corporation then Pacquiao would only threaten Pac's own celebrity. Pacquiao is not like Floyd and does not sue everyone who uses his likeness for good or bad. He doesn't prey on his enemy's, he just keeps on keepin on.

[aboutfkntime]

How do you place a monetary value on what Paulie did? The rigor moral and wasted money Pac's team would have to go through to get Paulie in a court room for defamation over youtube videos would pan out to a wasted effort. You just don't get it. Suing a sports personality who is part of a larger corporation then Pacquiao would only threaten Pac's own celebrity. Pacquiao is not like Floyd and does not sue everyone who uses his likeness for good or bad. He doesn't prey on his enemy's, he just keeps on keepin on.

Hold on.....

That is EXACTLY what they did to Mayweather.

They did not consider that a waste of effort, because of the damage caused by the defamation..... but for some strange reason, it was a waste of effort to include Paulie..... even though his comments were far more damaging.

You simply cannot explain/justify the following comment, no matter how you spin it......

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IF defamation was the real motivation for suing Mayweather, then OBVIOUSLY Paulie would have been included, because he defamed Pacquiao much worse than Mayweather did.

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The motivation behind the lawsuit, was OBVIOUSLY not defamation, otherwise Pacquiao would have sued EVERYBODY who defamed him, common-sense really.

[creekrat77]

Hold on.....

That is EXACTLY what they did to Mayweather.

They did not consider that a waste of effort, because of the damage caused by the defamation..... but for some strange reason, it was a waste of effort to include Paulie..... even though his comments were far more damaging.

You simply cannot explain/justify the following comment, no matter how you spin it......

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IF defamation was the real motivation for suing Mayweather, then OBVIOUSLY Paulie would have been included, because he defamed Pacquiao much worse than Mayweather did.

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The motivation behind the lawsuit, was OBVIOUSLY not defamation, otherwise Pacquiao would have sued EVERYBODY who defamed him, common-sense really.

With your logic, Pac's team should be suing every single schmuck who has said a cross word about his career. Suing Floyd was about taking a stand against a coward who was claiming his absence from fighting Pacquiao was all about Pacquiao being a chronic steroid user. Paulie didn't initially defame Pacquiao before Floyd made all these BS allegations. Paulie came out and was repeating a slew of bullcr*p that Floyd and his team started. Paulie is small ****in potatoes. His opinion whether good or bad has no impact on Pacquiao's celebrity. If he were to go on air saying it having gained a huge audience or following that of Floyd, then Pac's camp would be liable to sue. But in this case, Paulie is just a washed up has been running his mouth. He has no clout or influence when it comes to turning people away from Manny Pacquiao.

[ADP02]

I've answered this before.

Heredia is VERY UNLIKELY to work with ANY American boxer in regards to PEDs because of his history. He was a big Federal Informant. If he gets caught aiding a U.S. athlete with PEDs, he is going to do MAJOR prison time. He escaped prison because he was a big informant.

It is way more likely, Heredia would help a non-American athlete, on non-American territory, as he wouldn't risk jail time. Toying with American athletes in regards to PEDs, he is risking guaranteed jail time.

The reason you said the bold is to protect your hero Floyd. Got it.

You still don't get what Memo can do. He says that he knows of 20 PEDs that are undetectable.

The reason Memo says the above is either due to his masking techniques or even better, due to him being able to alter his PEDs just enough that they are not considered a PED. That is, not on the CURRENT list of banned PEDs. All he needs to due is derive his PEDs from an existing PEDs by changing a couple of molecules and he has a spanking brand new undetectable PEDs.


So if lets say Memo can say the above and guarantee someone like Marquez or Floyd that his new and improved PEDs are undetectable, they may say yes.