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  • D4thincarnation
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    #141
    Originally posted by Boxing's Truth
    De La Hoya had to go on a super model diet to make weight against Pac, which even Freddy said that he noticed the I.V. marks on Oscar's arm during the face off before the fight. He knew right then and there that Oscar, also on the decline, would have a long night against Manny.

    But this fight isn't even remotely close to Pac-Hoya. Floyd isn't at his peak but at the same time he is not a diminished fighter. Floyd is fighting at a weight that is his natural weight. Floyd is bigger and just as fast as Pac in this stage of their careers.

    And Manny will not muscle Floyd to the corner and try to unleash a hundred punches on Floyd. That's something that Floyd's bigger opponents tried to due because they knew that they had no chance in the center of the ring.

    If Manny doesn't score some serious bombs early in this fight I can see Floyd start to man handle Manny after the 5th or 6th round and turn this into an embarrassing night for Manny.

    Does Manny have a chance? Yeah, he needs to devastate Floyd early. But I don't see Floyd just standing in front of Manny letting him tee off. I think the fight goes to Floyd on a UD or late stoppage.

    Pacquiao will not slow down like so Manny of Floyd's opponents.

    Footwork, speed and work rate and Manny's defense will be key in this fight, just like against Oscar

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    • Boxing's Truth
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      #142
      Originally posted by D4thincarnation
      Pacquiao will not slow down like so Manny of Floyd's opponents.

      Footwork, speed and work rate and Manny's defense will be key in this fight, just like against Oscar
      I don't think Manny is the same fighter that many think that is coming into this fight.

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        #143
        Originally posted by TangInaMo Floyd
        More like a Rocky 2 movie doe!
        Lmfao

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          #144
          Asked when he knew Pacquiao would win (vs DLH), trainer Freddie Roach answered: “Before the fight started. When he gained two pounds [from 145 to 147] between the weigh-in and fight time.”

          In an earlier point in the interview, Roach said: “I saw the IV in his arm, I saw the IV marks, it was fresh tape, they hydrated him too late, they waited too long to hydrate him. It was nothing illegal… The thing was, they couldn’t get anything into his system… Nobody let him build his body back up. They did it to themselves.”

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            #145
            Originally posted by Boxing's Truth
            I don't think Manny is the same fighter that many think that is coming into this fight.
            Maybe so, he lack the explosiveness and the constant moving, but still has the superior footwork, handspeed and work rate.

            Pacquiao has to box at mid rang and keep the fight in the centre of the ring and keep turning Floyd, never let him get set.

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              #146
              Originally posted by elishua F
              Asked when he knew Pacquiao would win (vs DLH), trainer Freddie Roach answered: “Before the fight started. When he gained two pounds [from 145 to 147] between the weigh-in and fight time.”

              In an earlier point in the interview, Roach said: “I saw the IV in his arm, I saw the IV marks, it was fresh tape, they hydrated him too late, they waited too long to hydrate him. It was nothing illegal… The thing was, they couldn’t get anything into his system… Nobody let him build his body back up. They did it to themselves.”
              Not true.

              Roach said he knew Pacquiao would beat Oscar, from the fight with Floyd. He knew Oscar couldn't throw the right hand anymore, and that was the reason the Floyd fight got away from him.

              Oscar was shot when he fought Floyd, but still managed to just drop a SD to Floyd.

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                #147
                Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                Maybe so, he lack the explosiveness and the constant moving, but still has the superior footwork, handspeed and work rate.

                Pacquiao has to box at mid rang and keep the fight in the centre of the ring and keep turning Floyd, never let him get set.
                I can respect that view. But in my opinion this fight won't come down to youthful athleticism, but skills and experience. And I think Floyd has the edge today.

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                  #148


                  1:20

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                    #149
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    Not true.

                    Roach said he knew Pacquiao would beat Oscar, from the fight with Floyd. He knew Oscar couldn't throw the right hand anymore, and that was the reason the Floyd fight got away from him.

                    Oscar was shot when he fought Floyd, but still managed to just drop a SD to Floyd.
                    I think regardless of what the Pac predicted before the fight, the weight was an issue with Oscar. On top of that, Oscar was just a big name at that time. Oscar was not Oscar when he fought a prime Manny.

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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Boxing's Truth
                      I can respect that view. But in my opinion this fight won't come down to youthful athleticism, but skills and experience. And I think Floyd has the edge today.
                      Pacquiao been in more fights been in boxing longer, and fought a huge variety of opponents.

                      He learns from every fight, and learns more from losses.

                      Pacquiao and Roach have been planning this fight for 5/6 years.

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