Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I Have 10 Sparring Partners For Pacquiao

[The Big Dunn]

I'm not following you. What do you mean he said the perfect thing about Ronda Rousey? And that it wasn't self-serving? I'm really not following at all

1. Him saying I don't know who he is about rousey was the perfect answer as it completely diffused the situation. Would it have been smart for Floyd to entertain fighting rousey, a woman, given his history and the cimate we are in right now regarding DV?

2. You taking the cotto undefeated stuff out of context is self serving. He wasn't discrediting Manny. to make it that so you can argue it or complain about it seems pointless IMO.

[Evol]

Another simple question. Isn't far easier to beat doping tests you KNOW are coming than ones you don't?

Simple question, if the thought of learning how to cycle off the peds even enter ur mind, don't u think u would wanna learn how to beat the testing completely?

So ur saying a person is gonna spend his time learning on how to cycle off the peds but won't put in that extra effort to learn how to beat the system completely?

[rasdun]

Actually the truth, something you have a hard time with, is:

Arum: the fight is getting close to reaching a deal.

Multiple credible media outlets: Bob arum is not telling the truth here

Dunn: Arum lied about this

Arum: manny is afraid of needles.

Credible boxing media: why would Manny be afraid of needles when he has tattoos?

Dunn: Arum saying this makes Manny look guilty.

I think arum saying that makes arum look like a liar. I think what the other poster is saying is that in some instances you say it makes him look like a liar and in other instances you say it mean something else.

Arum is always lying, he can't keep em all straight, none of em should mean anything

[Ahmed_Ismail]

photo: floyd mayweather jr boxing By Robert Elmore: There seems to be a lot of uneducated people on these blogs and websites about Floyd Mayweather Jr. Judging by the comments, most of the fans are new comers to boxing or they are just band wagoners looking to hate on Floyd because he is running boxing right now. There seems to be this myth that Floyd ducked certain fighters.

Let me say this. He can***8217;t fight everybody, although his critics want him to fight everybody. I will provide you with facts and where you (the reader) can go and retrieve the info for yourselves. Before I get started I want to point out this fact. No matter how many sources I provide, the hate still won***8217;t stop. The first myth is that he ducked Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto while all three were on Top Rank. Here***8217;s where I got my facts from. Go to Google and type in ***8220;Mayweather turns down 8 million to fight Margarito***8221;. It was written by Dan Rafael in 2006.



A match indeed was set to take place on pay per view on August 12th 2006. Bob Arum CEO of Top Rank said that Mayweather had no problem fighting Margarito for the 8 million. This is where the problem came in. Floyd wanted a guaranteed purse of 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Wait! Miguel Cotto? The same Miguel Cotto that had just beaten Carlos Maussa and was also ringside for the Floyd-Arturo Gatti fight and undefeated? Yes that Cotto.

Let***8217;s continue. Arum was only willing to guarantee Floyd 7 million for those fights. That would be going backwards wouldn***8217;t it? He was going to fight for 8 million then 7 against Cotto in a fight that would probably would have produced a good pay per view buys and brought good cash domestically? In addition to Floyd***8217;s 10 million dollar request, he wanted 20 million to fight Oscar De La Hoya. Arum was not interested in doing the fight and here***8217;s the response he gave.

***8220;That***8217;s not in the cards,***8221; Arum said. ***8220;He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It***8217;s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ***8216;em and when to fold ***8216;em. We***8217;ll talk about things down the road.***8221; Arum also said this about the De La Hoya fight. ***8220;I don***8217;t want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it***8217;s not worth it,***8221; he said. Oscar***8217;s last fight on Top Rank was in 2004 against Bernard Hopkins and there was nasty feud between Arum and Oscar brewing that started back in February of 2000 when Oscar was trying to get out of his contract with Top Rank. (Google search Oscar De La Hoya; you***8217;ll find this info under the section titled ***8220;De La Hoya vs Mosley 1).

But why wasn***8217;t Arum willing to give Floyd the cash he was asking to fight Cotto, Hatton or De La Hoya? De La Hoya and Hatton I could understand, but Margarito and Cotto? This is what led Floyd to buy out his contract for 750,000 and take control of his own career.

Floyd would take on Carlos Baldomir for the lineal welter weight title and 8 million and 1 dollar. This was Floyd***8217;s career best purse. So Arum told Floyd that the money wasn***8217;t there for the De La Hoya fight? Here are some facts and where you can find this info. Floyd***8217;s base purse was 10 million.

The fight broke all pay per view records in buys, gate, and domestic revenue. Oscar took home 52 million big ones while Floyd nabbed 25 million (Wiki Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather). So not only did Floyd get his 20 mill he was asking for he got 5 million more. The ten million he asked for to fight Cotto, he got that in and a whole lot more. Mayweather***8217;s base purse for the fight was a record breaking 32 million smackers. The fight was the second highest grossing non heavyweight fight in pay per view history with 1.5 million buys. Floyd banked more than 40 million for that fight. Now I***8217;m going to show something and provide facts. That same 7 million Arum tried to give Floyd for his fight against Cotto, he gave to Manny Pacquiao in his 2009 fight with Cotto. Manny***8217;s base purse was 7.4 million. He also made the same amount against De La Hoya. These were given by the Nevada State Athletic Commission who must publicly display fighter***8217;s purses.

Here are some more facts that probably won***8217;t be researched either. Floyd called out a slew of fighters on his way to the top. He called Prince Nassem Hamed after the Diego Corrales fight. ***8220;Larry Merchant told Floyd, ***8220;Prince Nassem aint gonna fight you. After seeing this it aint gonna happen***8221;. Floyd also said he hope he can fight the winner of the Casamayor-Freitas fight. He said after his victory over Jesus Chavez that he was looking forward to moving to 135 and fight Paul Spadafora, Jose Luis Castillo, and hopefully moving to 140 and fighting Kostya Tszyu. He also called out Juan Lazcano and Stevie Johnston. After his fight with Henry Bruseles at 140, Floyd once again called out Kostya Tszyu, he also added Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya to the list. Here is the info on Floyd calling out these fighters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhIB8be86w4).

Now neither Lazcano, Cassamayor, Freutes, Tszyu, or Johnston responded to Floyd***8217;s challenge. Now I have given much info to support my fact. However, as I have said before, most critics will not***8230;.will not***8230;will not look this stuff up because the truth will hurt a lot of feelings;especially the facts about Floyd asking to fight Cotto. I***8217;ve done my part. Do yours. Research. If anyone finds any hard facts about your claims, give them to me and I***8217;ll research them.

You won't get any replies to this post especially from Pact@rds because logic and facts don't mean anything to them.

Margarito, which everybody said Floyd was ducking, was a cheater and he got caught for it, on the same night he got caught he got KOed by Mosely, primarily because he had normal gloves and wraps, then what did Floyd do, he fought the winner of the fight which was Mosley and made him look like an amateur.
Cotto had his ups and downs and Floyd waited for him to get his career back on track and become a champion so that the fight is intruiging, so he fought Cotto at 154 for Cotto's WBA title, so Cotto was a champion coming off a very impressive win again against the "big bad wolf" Antonio Margarito and Cotto also got his @ss whooped!
Pacquiao on the other hand fought Cotto at 145 (knowing Cotto's troubles making 147) after he was cut up and completely dismantled by Margarito a year earlier and Cotto was coming off a life or death knock out drag out with B level Clottey.

Facts people, FACTS!

[rasdun]

1. Him saying I don't know who he is about rousey was the perfect answer as it completely diffused the situation. Would it have been smart for Floyd to entertain fighting rousey, a woman, given his history and the cimate we are in right now regarding DV?

2. You taking the cotto undefeated stuff out of context is self serving. He wasn't discrediting Manny. to make it that so you can argue it or complain about it seems pointless IMO.

1. no, the perfect answer would be to act intelligent and say yes she's a great fighter. I'm not interested in fighting any UFC fighters, man or woman.That's it.

2. if it was just that instant, I'd agree with you, but the catch weight thing has been brought up in multiple instances to discredit him

[The Big Dunn]

I think arum saying that makes arum look like a liar. I think what the other poster is saying is that in some instances you say it makes him look like a liar and in other instances you say it mean something else.

Arum is always lying, he can't keep em all straight, none of em should mean anything

I do treat Floyd sr. and arum differently with respect to what they say.
with regards to the above I am making a conclusion based on additional info, not just what was said.

1. no, the perfect answer would be to act intelligent and say yes she's a great fighter. I'm not interested in fighting any UFC fighters, man or woman.That's it.

2. if it was just that instant, I'd agree with you, but the catch weight thing has been brought up in multiple instances to discredit him

1. I disagree. But its not a huge issue.

2. OK, then evaluate those statements. I said before agree that there have been times when the subject is Manny that he tries to discredit him. that doesn't mean he does this every time.

with regards to the quote we are disvussing, I think it was about making cotto more, not making many/margs less.

[rasdun]

You won't get any replies to this post especially from Pact@rds because logic and facts don't mean anything to them.

Margarito, which everybody said Floyd was ducking, was a cheater and he got caught for it, on the same night he got caught he got KOed by Mosely, primarily because he had normal gloves and wraps, then what did Floyd do, he fought the winner of the fight which was Mosley and made him look like an amateur.
Cotto had his ups and downs and Floyd waited for him to get his career back on track and become a champion so that the fight is intruiging, so he fought Cotto at 154 for Cotto's WBA title, so Cotto was a champion coming off a very impressive win again against the "big bad wolf" Antonio Margarito and Cotto also got his @ss whooped!
Pacquiao on the other hand fought Cotto at 145 (knowing Cotto's troubles making 147) after he was cut up and completely dismantled by Margarito a year earlier and Cotto was coming off a life or death knock out drag out with B level Clottey.

Facts people, FACTS!

fact....cotto weighed 1 lb under limit in his prior fight, he had no problem making weight. And you can say now that Cotto was busted up, but going into that fight, everyone thought that was going to be a great fight that could go either way. its just like saying that delahoya was weight drain, but going into that fight, he was a big favorite. To discredit those wins after the fact, idk, most boxing insidrs thought the wins were very, very impressive

[SchoolTheseCats]

1. no, the perfect answer would be to act intelligent and say yes she's a great fighter. I'm not interested in fighting any UFC fighters, man or woman.That's it.

2. if it was just that instant, I'd agree with you, but the catch weight thing has been brought up in multiple instances to discredit him

That rousey question was just ****** to ask after knowing he just served prison time for domestic violence it was well known cotto was having trouble making 147 even though fight before that he came in at 146 but you can't blame nobody but the fighters and they management that agree to catch weights

[rasdun]

Esp bc he was a jr lightwt 1 yr earlier

[rasdun]

That rousey question was just ****** to ask after knowing he just served prison time for domestic violence it was well known cotto was having trouble making 147 even though fight before that he came in at 146 but you can't blame nobody but the fighters and they management that agree to catch weights

maybe he was having problems making wt, I honestly hadn't heard that at the time