Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I Have 10 Sparring Partners For Pacquiao

[rasdun]

All these guys waited to fight Floyd until after they made a little money. They all refused to fight Floyd for whatever reasons as he was high risk, no reward for a lot of his career.

Mosley and ODH often ignored Floyd's challenges in their prime.

I didn't bring up ODH, but u did, so...Odh took on evryone. from mid 01 -05 ODH fought at 154- 160, and floyd at 135-140. Odh came back at 154 in 06, the first time they were even only one weight class apart, and the following year the fight got made. when exactly are you talking about then he didn't accept Floyds " challenge"?

[The Big Dunn]

based on that logic dunn, just because someone is trying to hype a fight, we shouldn't take seriously anything they say. I disagree.

Do you think Floyd is a dog or a gorilla? DO you think he is better than SRR or Ali? Do you think he doesn't know Ronda Rousey is a female? See my point?

What I'm saying is you and others are smart enough to differentiate what is real and what isn't. you understand context. you understand that dropping a few words from a quote can change what it means.

You show this when you evaluate things said by boxers other than Floyd. So that is why I expect you to do the same with him as well.

[The Big Dunn]

I didn't bring up ODH, but u did, so...Odh took on evryone. from mid 01 -05 ODH fought at 154- 160, and floyd at 135-140. Odh came back at 154 in 06, the first time they were even only one weight class apart, and the following year the fight got made. when exactly are you talking about then he didn't accept Floyds " challenge"?

everyone but Floyd.

Floyd called him out for ages, he never entertained the fight. As for the different weight classes, he had no problem bringing Manny up from 135 for a fight at 147, so why not do same with Floyd earlier?

This is too far from the thread topic.

[SchoolTheseCats]

from ur own post...

Bro what your missing is the tests are random no cutoff dates and no knowing when testers will be showing up if ariza juicing floyd I hope floyd get caught can't b1tch and moan bout manny was on something then turn around and do it yourself

[Evol]

Do you think Floyd is a dog or a gorilla? DO you think he is better than SRR or Ali? Do you think he doesn't know Ronda Rousey is a female? See my point?

What I'm saying is you and others are smart enough to differentiate what is real and what isn't. you understand context. you understand that dropping a few words from a quote can change what it means.

You show this when you evaluate things said by boxers other than Floyd. So that is why I expect you to do the same with him as well.

bob arum "manny is afraid of needles"

[rasdun]

He didn't single out Manny's win, he qualified both Cotto's losses. it was relevant because it was part of the actual quote. If you leave it out, you change the quote to seem like it was intended to discredit Manny when the quote was elevating Cotto despite his losses.

I also thought it was a good win, but I also note it was at 145 and not 147. Did he lie about these? If not, then you can't really complain as those are decisions manny and his camp made.

It's as if you don't want it mentioned.

What? Want wat mentioned? Not following. I didn't bring up margarito because his win should be discredt, I don't think there's any doubt in anyone's mines that margarito cheatd in the cotto fight and helped him get victory.
i also think that most boxing insiders realize that 2 pounds didnt impact that fight so much. That's what I mean by it not being relevant.
Margaritos win should be discreditd, not pacs.
see the difference?

[Evol]

Bro what your missing is the tests are random no cutoff dates and no knowing when testers will be showing up if ariza juicing floyd I hope floyd get caught can't b1tch and moan bout manny was on something then turn around and do it yourself

bro, what u dont get is, u just said if ariza was feeding manny peds, then ariza would know when to cycle off the peds so that when manny get tested, it wont show up.

so im asking u, if ariza knows all this, knows when to cycle off the peds so his fighter wont get caught, u dont think ariza would know how to beat the testing also? i mean if ariza knows when to cycle off the peds then im sure he knows how to beat the testing also.

[SchoolTheseCats]

Not quite the same level, but fighting Mosely in '99-'04 would've been a great fight, bf Mosely was almost 40.
that said, this fight is happening and the result will go a long way towards one fighter being mentioned along with SRL, Duran, Ali and other greats of the past 50 yrs, with the lose being on the list with BHop, Sweat Pea, and that very next level of greats who are top 30-40 all-time, but not top 10

photo: floyd mayweather jr boxing By Robert Elmore: There seems to be a lot of uneducated people on these blogs and websites about Floyd Mayweather Jr. Judging by the comments, most of the fans are new comers to boxing or they are just band wagoners looking to hate on Floyd because he is running boxing right now. There seems to be this myth that Floyd ducked certain fighters.

Let me say this. He can’t fight everybody, although his critics want him to fight everybody. I will provide you with facts and where you (the reader) can go and retrieve the info for yourselves. Before I get started I want to point out this fact. No matter how many sources I provide, the hate still won’t stop. The first myth is that he ducked Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto while all three were on Top Rank. Here’s where I got my facts from. Go to Google and type in “Mayweather turns down 8 million to fight Margarito”. It was written by Dan Rafael in 2006.



A match indeed was set to take place on pay per view on August 12th 2006. Bob Arum CEO of Top Rank said that Mayweather had no problem fighting Margarito for the 8 million. This is where the problem came in. Floyd wanted a guaranteed purse of 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Wait! Miguel Cotto? The same Miguel Cotto that had just beaten Carlos Maussa and was also ringside for the Floyd-Arturo Gatti fight and undefeated? Yes that Cotto.

Let’s continue. Arum was only willing to guarantee Floyd 7 million for those fights. That would be going backwards wouldn’t it? He was going to fight for 8 million then 7 against Cotto in a fight that would probably would have produced a good pay per view buys and brought good cash domestically? In addition to Floyd’s 10 million dollar request, he wanted 20 million to fight Oscar De La Hoya. Arum was not interested in doing the fight and here’s the response he gave.

“That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Arum also said this about the De La Hoya fight. “I don’t want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it’s not worth it,” he said. Oscar’s last fight on Top Rank was in 2004 against Bernard Hopkins and there was nasty feud between Arum and Oscar brewing that started back in February of 2000 when Oscar was trying to get out of his contract with Top Rank. (Google search Oscar De La Hoya; you’ll find this info under the section titled “De La Hoya vs Mosley 1).

But why wasn’t Arum willing to give Floyd the cash he was asking to fight Cotto, Hatton or De La Hoya? De La Hoya and Hatton I could understand, but Margarito and Cotto? This is what led Floyd to buy out his contract for 750,000 and take control of his own career.

Floyd would take on Carlos Baldomir for the lineal welter weight title and 8 million and 1 dollar. This was Floyd’s career best purse. So Arum told Floyd that the money wasn’t there for the De La Hoya fight? Here are some facts and where you can find this info. Floyd’s base purse was 10 million.

The fight broke all pay per view records in buys, gate, and domestic revenue. Oscar took home 52 million big ones while Floyd nabbed 25 million (Wiki Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather). So not only did Floyd get his 20 mill he was asking for he got 5 million more. The ten million he asked for to fight Cotto, he got that in and a whole lot more. Mayweather’s base purse for the fight was a record breaking 32 million smackers. The fight was the second highest grossing non heavyweight fight in pay per view history with 1.5 million buys. Floyd banked more than 40 million for that fight. Now I’m going to show something and provide facts. That same 7 million Arum tried to give Floyd for his fight against Cotto, he gave to Manny Pacquiao in his 2009 fight with Cotto. Manny’s base purse was 7.4 million. He also made the same amount against De La Hoya. These were given by the Nevada State Athletic Commission who must publicly display fighter’s purses.

Here are some more facts that probably won’t be researched either. Floyd called out a slew of fighters on his way to the top. He called Prince Nassem Hamed after the Diego Corrales fight. “Larry Merchant told Floyd, “Prince Nassem aint gonna fight you. After seeing this it aint gonna happen”. Floyd also said he hope he can fight the winner of the Casamayor-Freitas fight. He said after his victory over Jesus Chavez that he was looking forward to moving to 135 and fight Paul Spadafora, Jose Luis Castillo, and hopefully moving to 140 and fighting Kostya Tszyu. He also called out Juan Lazcano and Stevie Johnston. After his fight with Henry Bruseles at 140, Floyd once again called out Kostya Tszyu, he also added Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya to the list. Here is the info on Floyd calling out these fighters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhIB8be86w4).

Now neither Lazcano, Cassamayor, Freutes, Tszyu, or Johnston responded to Floyd’s challenge. Now I have given much info to support my fact. However, as I have said before, most critics will not….will not…will not look this stuff up because the truth will hurt a lot of feelings;especially the facts about Floyd asking to fight Cotto. I’ve done my part. Do yours. Research. If anyone finds any hard facts about your claims, give them to me and I’ll research them.

[rasdun]

everyone but Floyd.

Floyd called him out for ages, he never entertained the fight. As for the different weight classes, he had no problem bringing Manny up from 135 for a fight at 147, so why not do same with Floyd earlier?

This is too far from the thread topic.

definitely don't remember him calling him out for ages. I remember it for a year or two, then the fight happened.

Let's not pretend floyd was calling him out since '00

[The Big Dunn]

bob arum "manny is afraid of needles"

If you think that wasn't real, fine. Most thought he was being sincere and called him on it.

Only a few of the worst pac fans thought Floyd actually thought cotto was undefeated.