Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I Have 10 Sparring Partners For Pacquiao

[Evol]

If you think that wasn't real, fine. Most thought he was being sincere and called him on it.

Only a few of the worst pac fans thought Floyd actually thought cotto was undefeated.

this is what im talking about..

sr= nothing to be taken serious when its not what we want to hear.

arum= everything to be taken serious when its what we want to hear.

u just said arum is a lair and here u are LOL.

[rasdun]

Do you think Floyd is a dog or a gorilla? DO you think he is better than SRR or Ali? Do you think he doesn't know Ronda Rousey is a female? See my point?

What I'm saying is you and others are smart enough to differentiate what is real and what isn't. you understand context. you understand that dropping a few words from a quote can change what it means.

You show this when you evaluate things said by boxers other than Floyd. So that is why I expect you to do the same with him as well.

whatever the context, when you say something ****** like you don't know who Ronda Rousey is, it makes you look like an idiot. And when you say something like Miguel Cotto is undefeated, it makes you look ******. That's my opinion, we can agree to disagree I guess

[Marvellous1]

bro, what u dont get is, u just said if ariza was feeding manny peds, then ariza would know when to cycle off the peds so that when manny get tested, it wont show up.

so im asking u, if ariza knows all this, knows when to cycle off the peds so his fighter wont get caught, u dont think ariza would know how to beat the testing also? i mean if ariza knows when to cycle off the peds then im sure he knows how to beat the testing also.

A question. If Ariza knows how to beat testing, why didn't the Pacquiao camp just agree to take them and not walk from the fight? Before you try to swerve, Roach already admitted they didn't want the testing.

[The Big Dunn]

What? Want wat mentioned? Not following. I didn't bring up margarito because his win should be discredt, I don't think there's any doubt in anyone's mines that margarito cheatd in the cotto fight and helped him get victory.
i also think that most boxing insiders realize that 2 pounds didnt impact that fight so much. That's what I mean by it not being relevant.
Margaritos win should be discreditd, not pacs.
see the difference?

ok, maybe I miss understood you. While I think Margs more than likely cheated, Margs didn't get caught cheating in that fight while Manny's win was at 145 and not 147.

I still think the quote was about making his opponent in the fight, cotto, losses look better not discrediting the wins. If you think otherwise, we can agree to disagree.

I don't think pac's win should be discredited. But if anyone does so because it was at 145, that is on Manny because it's a stipulation he and his team put in place.

[SchoolTheseCats]

bro, what u dont get is, u just said if ariza was feeding manny peds, then ariza would know when to cycle off the peds so that when manny get tested, it wont show up.

so im asking u, if ariza knows all this, knows when to cycle off the peds so his fighter wont get caught, u dont think ariza would know how to beat the testing also? i mean if ariza knows when to cycle off the peds then im sure he knows how to beat the testing also.

it's harder to beat a test when it's random testing all way up to fight then when it's a cutoff date you have masking agents you can use to be able to not detect anything illegal but it only last for couple hours that's why key part is being random not knowing when testers would be showing up and cutoff dates those are things arum ask for when fight was close to happening in 09 that's not in play today **** I think it was smart for manny to throw in the I think 5mil fine clause if any fighter get caught cheating but also makes you question if he knew something bout ariza we all suspected and think he would be trying do same for floyd

[The Big Dunn]

this is what im talking about..

sr= nothing to be taken serious when its not what we want to hear.

arum= everything to be taken serious when its what we want to hear.

u just said arum is a lair and here u are LOL.

I clearly posted that I take some of what arum says seriously while I take none of what Floyd sr says seriously.

[Evol]

If you think that wasn't real, fine. Most thought he was being sincere and called him on it.

Only a few of the worst pac fans thought Floyd actually thought cotto was undefeated.

So when sr. Accused manny of juicing it was just a joke right? I'm just checking with u since U seem to know all abou this. Because the Floyd fans seem to take that and ran with it to the point of even making t shirts about it.

[rasdun]

photo: floyd mayweather jr boxing By Robert Elmore: There seems to be a lot of uneducated people on these blogs and websites about Floyd Mayweather Jr. Judging by the comments, most of the fans are new comers to boxing or they are just band wagoners looking to hate on Floyd because he is running boxing right now. There seems to be this myth that Floyd ducked certain fighters.

Let me say this. He can’t fight everybody, although his critics want him to fight everybody. I will provide you with facts and where you (the reader) can go and retrieve the info for yourselves. Before I get started I want to point out this fact. No matter how many sources I provide, the hate still won’t stop. The first myth is that he ducked Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto while all three were on Top Rank. Here’s where I got my facts from. Go to Google and type in “Mayweather turns down 8 million to fight Margarito”. It was written by Dan Rafael in 2006.



A match indeed was set to take place on pay per view on August 12th 2006. Bob Arum CEO of Top Rank said that Mayweather had no problem fighting Margarito for the 8 million. This is where the problem came in. Floyd wanted a guaranteed purse of 10 million to fight Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton. Wait! Miguel Cotto? The same Miguel Cotto that had just beaten Carlos Maussa and was also ringside for the Floyd-Arturo Gatti fight and undefeated? Yes that Cotto.

Let’s continue. Arum was only willing to guarantee Floyd 7 million for those fights. That would be going backwards wouldn’t it? He was going to fight for 8 million then 7 against Cotto in a fight that would probably would have produced a good pay per view buys and brought good cash domestically? In addition to Floyd’s 10 million dollar request, he wanted 20 million to fight Oscar De La Hoya. Arum was not interested in doing the fight and here’s the response he gave.

“That’s not in the cards,” Arum said. “He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em. We’ll talk about things down the road.” Arum also said this about the De La Hoya fight. “I don’t want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it’s not worth it,” he said. Oscar’s last fight on Top Rank was in 2004 against Bernard Hopkins and there was nasty feud between Arum and Oscar brewing that started back in February of 2000 when Oscar was trying to get out of his contract with Top Rank. (Google search Oscar De La Hoya; you’ll find this info under the section titled “De La Hoya vs Mosley 1).

But why wasn’t Arum willing to give Floyd the cash he was asking to fight Cotto, Hatton or De La Hoya? De La Hoya and Hatton I could understand, but Margarito and Cotto? This is what led Floyd to buy out his contract for 750,000 and take control of his own career.

Floyd would take on Carlos Baldomir for the lineal welter weight title and 8 million and 1 dollar. This was Floyd’s career best purse. So Arum told Floyd that the money wasn’t there for the De La Hoya fight? Here are some facts and where you can find this info. Floyd’s base purse was 10 million.

The fight broke all pay per view records in buys, gate, and domestic revenue. Oscar took home 52 million big ones while Floyd nabbed 25 million (Wiki Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather). So not only did Floyd get his 20 mill he was asking for he got 5 million more. The ten million he asked for to fight Cotto, he got that in and a whole lot more. Mayweather’s base purse for the fight was a record breaking 32 million smackers. The fight was the second highest grossing non heavyweight fight in pay per view history with 1.5 million buys. Floyd banked more than 40 million for that fight. Now I’m going to show something and provide facts. That same 7 million Arum tried to give Floyd for his fight against Cotto, he gave to Manny Pacquiao in his 2009 fight with Cotto. Manny’s base purse was 7.4 million. He also made the same amount against De La Hoya. These were given by the Nevada State Athletic Commission who must publicly display fighter’s purses.

Here are some more facts that probably won’t be researched either. Floyd called out a slew of fighters on his way to the top. He called Prince Nassem Hamed after the Diego Corrales fight. “Larry Merchant told Floyd, “Prince Nassem aint gonna fight you. After seeing this it aint gonna happen”. Floyd also said he hope he can fight the winner of the Casamayor-Freitas fight. He said after his victory over Jesus Chavez that he was looking forward to moving to 135 and fight Paul Spadafora, Jose Luis Castillo, and hopefully moving to 140 and fighting Kostya Tszyu. He also called out Juan Lazcano and Stevie Johnston. After his fight with Henry Bruseles at 140, Floyd once again called out Kostya Tszyu, he also added Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya to the list. Here is the info on Floyd calling out these fighters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhIB8be86w4).

Now neither Lazcano, Cassamayor, Freutes, Tszyu, or Johnston responded to Floyd’s challenge. Now I have given much info to support my fact. However, as I have said before, most critics will not….will not…will not look this stuff up because the truth will hurt a lot of feelings;especially the facts about Floyd asking to fight Cotto. I’ve done my part. Do yours. Research. If anyone finds any hard facts about your claims, give them to me and I’ll research them.

there's a difference between saying in an interview that you want to fight someone, and actually taking the steps to do so. I don't think Floyd has ducked most challenges, far from it. I do think though that money is more important than legacy. And that's fine, I have no problem with that. I just don't think he has that DTBG gene in him where he'll seek out a fight that he may be the undrrdog, like Leonard did v hagler.
if he did, in 08, he wouldve tried to come back vs pac, or Williams or martinez, not JMM

[Marvellous1]

whatever the context, when you say something ****** like you don't know who Ronda Rousey is, it makes you look like an idiot. And when you say something like Miguel Cotto is undefeated, it makes you look ******. That's my opinion, we can agree to disagree I guess

One thing that can't be disputed is that Mayweather is pretty ****** when it comes to making public/press statements. If he had the intelligence outside the ring as he has in it he'd be a mensa member.

[The Big Dunn]

whatever the context, when you say something ****** like you don't know who Ronda Rousey is, it makes you look like an idiot. And when you say something like Miguel Cotto is undefeated, it makes you look ******. That's my opinion, we can agree to disagree I guess

but he didn't say either. you know this but act like he did for self serving reasons. He said the perfect thing in regards to Rousey.

Relative to Cotto being undefeated-you know what that was about. There should be no need to act like it was something else just to have something to argue about.

everything Floyd says should not get such a visceral response from Manny fans.