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  • #11
    Originally posted by SplitSecond View Post
    no, it's a fact, VADA is better, they test exactly the same, except VADA is extremely thorough on all samples, while USADA is only if it's over the T:E ratio

    USADA being as large as it is probabley can't afford CIR testing on every sample so they cut back

    one of the perks of the smaller VADA
    Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
    The fact is, one is inferior because they don't always use cir. One has a higher standard.
    SO if I'm understanding it correctly, VADA has a lower CIR but tests far fewer times. USADA has the higher CIR but does more testing.

    Isn't the fact they both can be manipulated to a degree the reason Kathy says she doesn't trust any testing like this?

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    • #12
      Didn't read TS, but the way they were bragging about their ****ty NBC deal, basically saying they made more money and spent less, was bitter and ******ed. Nothing they did on NBC was towards the sport. Ya, Haymon wants to make money, but in turn he's building the sport.

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      • #13
        lol @ people saying duva is cheap. The tests aren't even expensive. Also, she wouldn't personally pay for the test, it would come from the boxer's purse. She already said she thinks the commission should handle the testing, not the boxers/promoters. lmao

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        • #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          SO if I'm understanding it correctly, VADA has a lower CIR but tests far fewer times. USADA has the higher CIR but does more testing.

          Isn't the fact they both can be manipulated to a degree the reason Kathy says she doesn't trust any testing like this?
          One can be be manipulated easier, making it inferior.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by 80sFighter View Post
            Tough situation because Pascal may have turned down the fight entirely if testing was included in the contract, and since it's already signed his sudden insistence on testing that suited him was basically idle threas/trolling.

            She doesn't have that many options since she can't force him to take the tests they want and her main job was getting the fight signed at all.

            But Kathy Duva should have been aware of Pascal working with Memo, and prepared a strategy before they started negotiating.

            And I agree that Pascal was trolling later in their conference call.

            Another aspect of using Memo's drugs very heavily is that Pascal's resistance to punches will increase multifold. This might cause severe health problems for Pascal without his nervous system being aware of it. His life might even be in danger without him "feeling" it at the moment in the ring. This should definitely not be part of boxing. It can severely damage boxing's reputation.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
              One can be be manipulated easier, making it inferior.
              One could miss use because it doesn't read the low T:E ratio. So that means the testing done closest to the fight could be problematic.

              The other doesn't test frequently, which gives more time for whatever is used to be neutralized such that it falls below the lower T:E ratio which means use during training isn't being caught.

              Is this fair to say?

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Tay Roc View Post
                lol @ people saying duva is cheap. The tests aren't even expensive. Also, she wouldn't personally pay for the test, it would come from the boxer's purse. She already said she thinks the commission should handle the testing, not the boxers/promoters. lmao
                Shes cheap as ****. Have you read her tweets regarding NBC the last few days.

                She's all about the dollar. Could care less about the sport. **** her.

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                • #18
                  From another thread:
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  You are absolutely pathetic. Your whole career as a poster has proven to be a waste. Your services are no longer needed on NSB.

                  Fight is on and we know you don't watch boxing. You are nothing more than a hype job.
                  This thread:
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  One could miss use because it doesn't read the low T:E ratio. So that means the testing done closest to the fight could be problematic.

                  The other doesn't test frequently, which gives more time for whatever is used to be neutralized such that it falls below the lower T:E ratio which means use during training isn't being caught.

                  Is this fair to say?
                  Everyone knows that Memo likes to work with USADA, while he refuses to work with VADA because they can detect his illegal drugs.

                  Your whole career as a poster has been proven to be a waste because your posts have no longer any credibility.





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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Da Machine View Post
                    Shes cheap as ****. Have you read her tweets regarding NBC the last few days.

                    She's all about the dollar. Could care less about the sport. **** her.
                    That was Duva's daughter...

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Philantro View Post
                      Don't write WADA when everyone knows you mean USADA. USADA is not much better than nothing.

                      VADA is the only drug testing with any credibility at all.

                      You and your propaganda campaign makes me sick.



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                      VADA is a startup organization. Most people are very critical of startups. The only reason you and other clowns who in 2010 claimed that no additional drug testing was needed beyond what the commission offers, think VADA is better than USADA is because VADA is the organization that Floyd Mayweather does not use.

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