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  • Prophet2525
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    #121
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    The irony of this statement coming from someone that been exposed.
    Classic response from someone who has lost and given up. Now go cry on mama's shoulder. Looking forward to your response. Study up on your fictitious contract negotiations. I want to know more about it. You can make one up if you want. You have all night. I'll quiz you tomorrow.
    Last edited by Prophet2525; 03-08-2015, 10:31 PM.

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    • AllBoxingAD
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      #122
      Originally posted by Prophet2525
      A contract is a legally-binding document between parties involved and for it to be legally-binding it has to be agreed to and signed. What you refer to as a contract in paragraph 2 is a contract proposal that both parties may write up in preparation for negotiations. If the negotiations are uncomplicated, these proposals can easily be modified to be the contract agreed to by parties involved. However, in the case of Pac/PBF, there will be many iterations due to the complex nature of the fight.

      The operative phrase is bolded in paragraph 2, "Pacquiao COULD HAVE SIGNED". We are all surmising as to what was signed. Did Pacquiao sign a contract proposal? Possible. Did Pacquiao sign a contract that was agreed to by both parties, that Floyd wouldn't sign? Possible.

      Its really not complicated.

      Any contract could have draft upon draft upon revised draft, until a final one is made, agreed to by both parties and then signed.

      The problem is that in this case, this final contract could not exist until the networks had finished negotiating their end of the deal too. This is why people keep saying that no contract even exists at this point.

      Manny HAD to be aware of this. Unless he really is this clueless moron who is just really a puppet. And I dont believe he is.

      So when he went around saying "Floyd sign the contract" he was blatantly lying to the public because he knew no contract even existed.

      Why are people pretending that somehow Manny's integrity is above doing something like this?

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      • radioraheem
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        #123
        Originally posted by Prophet2525
        A contract is a legally-binding document between parties involved and for it to be legally-binding it has to be agreed to and signed. What you refer to as a contract in paragraph 2 is a contract proposal that both parties may write up in preparation for negotiations. If the negotiations are uncomplicated, these proposals can easily be modified to be the contract agreed to by parties involved. However, in the case of Pac/PBF, there will be many iterations due to the complex nature of the fight.

        The operative phrase is bolded in paragraph 2, "Pacquiao COULD HAVE SIGNED". We are all surmising as to what was signed. Did Pacquiao sign a contract proposal? Possible. Did Pacquiao sign a contract that was agreed to by both parties, that Floyd wouldn't sign? Possible.
        What I described in Paragraph 2 does not have to be a 'proposal.' Many contracts are written where it contains terms that one side DID NOT agree to. This is done in business many times, because not everyone is ethical. We are dealing with human beings, and either side can try to sneak terms into the contract that benefits them, but is disadvantageous to the other. Like I said, Pacquaio could have easily signed a early draft of a contract. It happens all the time in business.

        It's unlikely that Pacquaio signed a month in-advance, a contract, that Team Mayweather agreed upon. You aren't even looking at the timeline of when it was said Pacquaio allegedly already signed.

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        • radioraheem
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          #124
          Originally posted by AllBoxingAD
          Its really not complicated.

          Any contract could have draft upon draft upon revised draft, until a final one is made, agreed to by both parties and then signed.

          The problem is that in this case, this final contract could not exist until the networks had finished negotiating their end of the deal too. This is why people keep saying that no contract even exists at this point.

          Manny HAD to be aware of this. Unless he really is this clueless moron who is just really a puppet. And I dont believe he is.

          So when he went around saying "Floyd sign the contract" he was blatantly lying to the public because he knew no contract even existed.

          Why are people pretending that somehow Manny's integrity is above doing something like this?
          He apparently doesn't seem to understand this.

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          • Rath
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            #125
            Originally posted by AllBoxingAD
            Its really not complicated.

            Any contract could have draft upon draft upon revised draft, until a final one is made, agreed to by both parties and then signed.

            The problem is that in this case, this final contract could not exist until the networks had finished negotiating their end of the deal too. This is why people keep saying that no contract even exists at this point.

            Manny HAD to be aware of this. Unless he really is this clueless moron who is just really a puppet. And I dont believe he is.

            So when he went around saying "Floyd sign the contract" he was blatantly lying to the public because he knew no contract even existed.

            Why are people pretending that somehow Manny's integrity is above doing something like this?
            Floyd said in that interview on NBA all star that Pac not sign any contract and he not sign any contract and that the negotiation was a speculation, few days later he announced the fight. when did exactly do you think he got the contract to sign?

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            • lopetego
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              #126
              Floyd and Haymon are little *****es looking for any advantage they can get

              hiring Pac's former S/C coach, hiring PED master heredia the man behind JMM's KO victory over Pac, sabotaging Pac's sparring partners, i wonder what's next?

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              • bmud reggin
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                #127
                Originally posted by HeGotPacProblem
                Why is there no response from Al/Floyd regarding this? Canelo said Floyd did the same thing to him in preparation for his fight vs Floyd. Why would Roach/Pac lie about it? Wake up and open your eyes.
                His eyes are open, is just that Floyds nuts are blocking them

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                • AllBoxingAD
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Rath
                  Floyd said in that interview on NBA all star that Pac not sign any contract and he not sign any contract and that the negotiation was a speculation, few days later he announced the fight. when did exactly do you think he got the contract to sign?
                  Feb 18-20 something like that. You know, when multiple journalists announced the fight had been agreed to by all parties and they were all just waiting for Floyd to announce it. Also about a full month AFTER team Manny was telling everyone that they were just waiting for Floyd to sign a non-existing contract.

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                  • radioraheem
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by AllBoxingAD
                    Feb 18-20 something like that. You know, when multiple journalists announced the fight had been agreed to by all parties and they were all just waiting for Floyd to announce it. Also about a full month AFTER team Manny was telling everyone that they were just waiting for Floyd to sign a non-existing contract.
                    Don't mind that guy. He criticises Floyd at any chance he's given. He's one of the weirdly obsessed Floyd fans, like Gong.

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                    • Rath
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by AllBoxingAD
                      Feb 18-20 something like that. You know, when multiple journalists announced the fight had been agreed to by all parties and they were all just waiting for Floyd to announce it. Also about a full month AFTER team Manny was telling everyone that they were just waiting for Floyd to sign a non-existing contract.
                      when was the negotiation between sho and hbo settled and finalized?

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