Is the PED called Xylocaine still legal in Nevada?

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  • Robbie Barrett
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    #51
    Adam Booth said that they use lidocaine for cuts after the Haye/Klitschko fight.

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    • arraamis
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      #52
      Originally posted by Bald Shavers
      Just a general boxing question that is not connected with any particular fighter.

      Is Xylocaine - a drug that enhances the performance of boxers that have brittle hands by numbing their hands - sill legal in Nevada despite being banned in 49 states?
      No offense, but this is a silly post\thread .....

      Firstly, get you facts straight before posting nonsense.

      #1. LIDOCAINE cannot be obtained without a prescription from a Doctor

      #2. LIDOCAINE is not a PED

      #3. LIDOCAINE is a local anesthetic agent used for Infiltration and Nerve Block Including Caudal and Epidural Use

      #4. LIDOCAINE has never been documented to improve performance in any medical journal or publication.

      #5. LIDOCAINE is legal throughout the United Stated and in use at every hospital and medical center in the world.

      Lastly, this is not a boxing related question or summation ... this is a trolling thread in disguise .... nothing more.

      Class is out and you can go back to the playground for recess

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        #53
        Originally posted by arraamis
        No offense, but this is a silly post\thread .....

        Firstly, get you facts straight before posting nonsense.

        #1. LIDOCAINE cannot be obtained without a prescription from a Doctor

        #2. LIDOCAINE is not a PED

        #3. LIDOCAINE is a local anesthetic agent used for Infiltration and Nerve Block Including Caudal and Epidural Use

        #4. LIDOCAINE has never been documented to improve performance in any medical journal or publication.

        #5. LIDOCAINE is legal throughout the United Stated and in use at every hospital and medical center in the world.
        But by numbing the hand, does it not literally increase that hand's ENDURANCE?

        In other words, if without it the fighter would have only been able to punch all out for three rounds - but by injecting himself with it he can now be able to punch all out for 11 rounds. Has he not then just been able to ENHANCE his performance (via temporary hand endurance) as a boxer because of xylocaine?

        And isn't "endurance" an important factor of boxer PERFORMANCE which is the key word in the phrase "PERFORMANCE Enhancing drug"?

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          #54
          Originally posted by Bald Shavers
          But by numbing the hand, does it not literally increase that hand's ENDURANCE?

          In other words, if without it the fighter would have only been able to punch all out for three rounds - but by injecting himself with it he can now be able to punch all out for 11 rounds. Has he not then just been able to ENHANCE his performance (via temporary hand endurance) as a boxer because of xylocaine?

          And isn't "endurance" an important factor of boxer PERFORMANCE which is the key word in the phrase "PERFORMANCE Enhancing drug"?
          It stops pain it doesn't increase stamina.

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            #55
            Originally posted by arraamis
            No offense, but this is a silly post\thread .....

            Firstly, get you facts straight before posting nonsense.

            #1. LIDOCAINE cannot be obtained without a prescription from a Doctor

            #2. LIDOCAINE is not a PED

            #3. LIDOCAINE is a local anesthetic agent used for Infiltration and Nerve Block Including Caudal and Epidural Use

            #4. LIDOCAINE has never been documented to improve performance in any medical journal or publication.

            #5. LIDOCAINE is legal throughout the United Stated and in use at every hospital and medical center in the world.

            Lastly, this is not a boxing related question or summation ... this is a trolling thread in disguise .... nothing more.

            Class is out and you can go back to the playground for recess
            This.

            Not a PED, legal in every state.

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            • arraamis
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              #56
              Originally posted by Bald Shavers
              But by numbing the hand, does it not literally increase that hand's ENDURANCE?

              In other words, if without it the fighter would have only been able to punch all out for three rounds - but by injecting himself with it he can now be able to punch all out for 11 rounds. Has he not then just been able to ENHANCE his performance (via temporary hand endurance) as a boxer because of xylocaine?

              And isn't "endurance" an important factor of boxer PERFORMANCE which is the key word in the phrase "PERFORMANCE Enhancing drug"?
              You are negating the fact that lidocaine is a SHORT-TERM LOCAL anesthetic!!!!!!

              In order to "numb the hand" one would require a nerve block above the wrist -- which would branch from nerve bundles originating at the spinal cord and running down the arm.

              In essence, you cannot simply numb\apply a nerve block to the hand without involving additional structures. This will not lead to increased endurance, but muscular and nerve damage as a consequence of the impact. Since the reactionary principal of nerve ending activity is to notify the brain of Pain and prevention of injury. You would essentially eliminate those messages from being sent to the brain and the result would be severe damage to the hand.

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              • Bald Shavers
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                #57
                Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
                It stops pain it doesn't increase stamina.
                And by stopping pain the drug enhances the endurance of the hand that is getting injected. Endurance is a performance factor. Xylocaine enhances it.

                And by stopping pain the drug enhances performance by making the drug user less fearful of hurting his hand while punching.
                Last edited by Bald Shavers; 03-06-2015, 01:05 PM.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by y0z786
                  This.

                  Not a PED, legal in every state.

                  /Thread
                  So is pine tar but they can't use it on baseballs, bad argument.

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                  • arraamis
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Bald Shavers
                    And by stopping pain the drug enhances the endurance of the hand that is getting injected. Endurance is a performance factor. Xylocaine enhances it.

                    And by stopping pain the drug enhances performance by making the drug user less fearful of hurting his hand while punching.
                    Guy, you are off-track ..... But, if you're serious about gaining a better understanding of the uses of anesthetics and lidocaine in particular. Google is your friend, you can find mounds of accurate data on the subject, which would correct both your misinterpretations and misunderstandings.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by El-blanco
                      So is pine tar but they can't use it on baseballs, bad argument.
                      You can use pine tar in baseball
                      Rule 1.10(c) of the 2002 Official rules of Major League Baseball states that batters may apply pine tar only from the handle of the bat extending up 18 inches

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