Is the PED called Xylocaine still legal in Nevada?

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  • ADP02
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    #31
    Originally posted by Cut Man
    Stamina enhancers do enhance performance because it aides a physical atribute. Xylocaine doesn't do that. It just numbs the pain it doesn't increase speed or improve stamina of give strength or anything like that. It doesn't make the hand any stronger or more durability
    While it is not the same as EPO for example, it still allows you to do something that you can't do without it. So it is enhancing the athletes performance relative to if he didn't use the drug. With the drug, the user can hit harder than otherwise possible.

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    • justnz27
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      #32
      Even when the proof is in the pudding Floyd fans wanna make excuses and come up with some bs logic tht its ok for him to use this, y the hell do u think Floyd doesnt fight anywhere else but Vegas ? Not only cuz hes got the judges leaning towards him but because he cant use this ped anywhere else ! Its very obvious and should be dealt with, there are many other ways to protect damaging ur hands besides numbing them which is not even logical

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      • Rath
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        #33
        Floyd inject xylocaine on his hands then wrap it with gauze and then put on a pillow glove because they said it was "brittle".

        does anyone here knows boxer or boxers on record who injured their hands from a previous fight and started injecting their hands with xylocaine from then on when they fight or is it only Floyd who do this?

        how come Floyd hits josie harris with his bare hands (no gauze wrap around it and no pillow gloves) without injecting xylocaine and suddenly it was not brittle anymore?

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        • ukbox
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          #34
          Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail
          How can Xylocaine be a performance enhancing drug? it's like a medicine for brittle hands, Floyd fractures little bones and overstrains ligaments in his hands every time he fights, what could he do? Fight throught the whole 8 weeks of training camp and the last 8 rounds of every fight with ****ed up hands? Do you know how painful that is? How could numbing your hands give you more power anyway, if you're hands are numb you can't ball them up to make a fist with protruding knuckles, how can you punch with power if you don't punch with the knucles,if the punches are always with an open glove that balls up once you touch your opponent? How is that a decent power punch?
          If you hurt your hands a lot your nervous system will automatically tell your arms not to punch with power because your hands might get hurt if you do, that's y Floyd's punches are launched fast but then midway through he unconsciously slows them down because his body doesn't want the hands to get hurt.
          Even if he's actually using Xylocaine, he still injures his hands, he injured his right hand during the Guerrero fight and everybody saw how swollen they've got after the fight, the guy fought with broken hands and fought through a lot of pain almost for 1/4 the rounds he fought in his career and he still won and made them all look easy, you gotta respect that, he lacks the most important weapons for boxers which is durable hands and good punching power due to the accumulation of hand injuries and he's still P4P #1 fighter in the world at 38! this just goes to show you how skillful and mentally tough this guy actually is.
          I shattered my hand as a young-un, was told to expect to lose some fingers...end result no chance of fighting
          Why should Floyd have an advantage over other fighters because he is physically at a disadvantage.
          Hands get sore in training, it's an impact sport. To numb your hands so you can fight through pain due to not feeling it is clearly a PED.
          Steroids allow you to train harder without getting tired, they aid recovery, they are a PED.
          Floyd's numbing his hands to train harder than he is capable of without it, therefore it's clearly a PED
          I hope Vegas are shamed into commenting on this, it's a disgrace
          If it wasn't a PED it would legal everywhere

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            #35
            Originally posted by THEFRESHBRAWLER
            You don't know what you're talking about its legal and it's not treated as a PED
            Fighters have been been suspended/fined for lidocaine without special commission approval before so you are incorrect:

            http://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/18/sp...aces-fine.html

            I don't want to get in a ************ contest with you over specific fighters. I am just posting what I personally know about lidocaine, the rules regarding which may change year to year.
            Last edited by ////; 03-06-2015, 10:56 AM.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Cut Man
              Stamina enhancers do enhance performance because it aides a physical atribute. Xylocaine doesn't do that. It just numbs the pain it doesn't increase speed or improve stamina of give strength or anything like that. It doesn't make the hand any stronger or more durability
              How many people would have their tooth pulled if they weren't numb?
              Would going to the dentist fill you with anxiety if you knew that there would be no pain relief?

              Similar situation
              Floyd training & fighting without numbing his hands would be incapable of training.
              How could he if his hands were always causing him pain?
              Now give that fighter something that dulls his pain, Will he train & fight the same?
              Of course not

              It's performance enhancing, clearly

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                #37
                Originally posted by Cut Man
                It doesn't enhanced performance though. It just helps a figher get through the pain, it doesn't make you any stronger or add any power. It actually can harm a fighter more than help him because he doesn't feel the damage he is doing to his own hand
                One could argue that "traditional" PEDs help a fighter endure the pain of physical exhaustion, lung pain and muscle inflammation by artificially increasing stamina, not much different from numbing strategic parts of your body that you'll be hitting your opponent with.

                More importantly, remember the entire reason PEDs are banned: To protect the fighters. Any numbing agent could cause danger to both fighters.
                Last edited by ////; 03-06-2015, 11:03 AM.

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #38
                  I saw some over the counter hemorrhoid creme with Lidocaine in it~

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                  • Rath
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ukbox
                    How many people would have their tooth pulled if they weren't numb?
                    Would going to the dentist fill you with anxiety if you knew that there would be no pain relief?

                    Similar situation
                    Floyd training & fighting without numbing his hands would be incapable of training.
                    How could he if his hands were always causing him pain?
                    Now give that fighter something that dulls his pain, Will he train & fight the same?
                    Of course not

                    It's performance enhancing, clearly
                    wow 7 years member and this is your third posts?

                    on topic, you are right

                    any drug that enhances performance is a PED whether it is legal or not is the next question.

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                    • Rath
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      I saw some over the counter hemorrhoid creme with Lidocaine in it~
                      if Floyd test result reveal lidocaine in his system, he probably had a hemorrhoid inflamation.

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