Tyson Fury has a much better chin than Wladimir Klitschko

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  • jas
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    #21
    No

    Wlad punches way harder anyway

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    • kafkod
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      #22
      Originally posted by IntentionalButt
      The people who stunned & dropped Fury are of much lower caliber than even the guys that stopped WK early in his career.
      Cunningham and Chisora are not much lower calibre than the guys who KO'd Wlad. Lamon Brewster won a version of the world title at a time when the overall standard of heavyweight boxing was the lowest it's ever been. No way would he win a title today and no way would he KO Tyson Fury.

      The Fury we saw in his last 2 fights would have beaten Brewster and Sanders pretty easily, imo.
      Last edited by kafkod; 03-06-2015, 09:15 AM.

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      • kafkod
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        #23
        Originally posted by PainfromUkraine
        A guy that uppercuts himself and has to be told by a referee how to throw a jab = "more naturally skilled and talented" than a 10 year dominant world-class champion who has one of the most textbook and powerful jabs, straights, and left hooks of all time. Seems legit.

        'Heart' is not the willingness to be reckless and fight inside. Heart is dealing with extreme adversity and coming back from hopeless situations. Fury is the better brawler and maybe more natural 'fighter', but as a boxer it is simply incomparable.

        Wlad has fought a lot better opponents and been dropped by real heavyweights with power, and come back. Fury's chin has never really been tested, he hasn't fought a single fighter with great knockout power.

        The occasions where Wlad was knocked down all came in just a handful of fights, namely 3 in the Peter fight, 4 in the Sanders fight, 2 in the Brewster fights. Wlad has never failed to rise from a knockdown. That's heart in my book.

        No-one says Wlad has a great chin, but he simply wouldn't be champ for this long if he had the level of glass as some try to say. A lot of his issues that led to his losses were exhaustion, and to say Fury has a better chin from the pathetic opposition he has faced so far for the most part is just ridiculous.
        Chisora has power. He's the only guy ever to drop Kevin Johnson.

        I'm not going to say that Fury has a better chin than Wlad, but there is no evidence at all that his chin is any worse.

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          #24
          Originally posted by kafkod
          Chisora has power. He's the only guy ever to drop Kevin Johnson.

          I'm not going to say that Fury has a better chin than Wlad, but there is no evidence at all that his chin is any worse.
          That says more about where Johnson was at that stage. Chisora is not a puncher, at all.

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            #25
            Fury got dropped hard by a cruiserweight FFS

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            • Daddy T
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              #26
              possibly ... but then so did Wach, Pulev and Povetkin. Wlad beat them all.

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              • yoz
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                #27
                Originally posted by KnockoutNed
                He KO'd iron chinned Steve Cunningham(whose never been KO'd before or since) Kevin Johnson, Derek Chisora 2x(who Wlad ducked) etc.
                He was supposed to fight David Haye but Haye pulled out of the fight 2x by faking injuries.
                He performed much better against Johnson and Chisora than Vitali did.
                He can string together fast combinations and throws from many angles, very active hard body puncher(he broke up Hammer's ribs forcing him to quit).
                His stamina is fantastic for a HW. Throws 70/80 punches a round without a problem. Could easily fight a 15 round fight.
                He's far more loose than Wlad who fights like a stiff robot. Under trainer Peter Fury his footwork and defense have improve tremendously to the point that he is nearly unhittable now.
                He's one of the only HWs in boxing history who can fight both orthodox and southpaw at world level with equal efficiency
                His punching power is also very underrated. He has a 75% KO and Johnson said Fury hit harder than Vitali.

                As Wlad's N.1 mandatory he's gunning for his opportunity to take the titles away from him. Hopefully he doesn't avoid Fury for a 3rd time but i think he will.
                LOL, so now he hits harder than Wladimir?

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                  #28
                  Klitschko-Fury will be the most talked about HW fight in many years.

                  It will be a major sports event in UK and mainland Europe, and receive a fair amount of media coverage in the USA as well.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Freedom.
                    Klitschko-Fury will be the most talked about HW fight in many years.

                    It will be a major sports event in UK and mainland Europe, and receive a fair amount of media coverage in the USA as well.
                    Prediction for the fight if it happens?

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                    • PainfromUkraine
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      Chisora has power. He's the only guy ever to drop Kevin Johnson.

                      I'm not going to say that Fury has a better chin than Wlad, but there is no evidence at all that his chin is any worse.
                      That doesn't mean much. Johnson was way past his best, unmotivated, and still went on to recover from that shot and finish the fight. It was a flash knockdown from what I recall. And Chisora can only use his power v shorter guys he can reach. He simply couldn't reach Fury to land anything meaningful at all. And in general Chisora isn't a puncher.

                      While Fury's chin might not be worse, that's not the point of this thread. I am disproving the notion Wlad has an evidently much weaker chin than Fury, which is simply not the case.

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