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  • Ljc
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    #41
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    Listen to yourself. You actually said what can Roc Nation offer to Cotto other than money as if that's some ****ty thing. As if that's irrelevant. As if that doesn't pay your bills and is the primary reason why we work. And then you inadvertently compare it to a scenario that's probably not as good and brings him nothing but...money.

    So we're complaining Cotto took a better deal? Miguel Cotto has been in many big fights, tough wars and has had an illustrious career, regardless of where he winds up ranked. As he enters the twilight of his year, a man who has paid his dues to this game time and time again is now getting an ROI. And you think he lives in another universe. No, it's you and the rest with all this feigned outrage that need to join us in reality.
    I agree with everything you say here, i dont care who a fighter is signed to, makes no difference to me. I just dont see how signing with roc nation is going to get him a fight for 10million? Surely he'll be fighting for less than that next time out now? Unless he doesnt fight untill september and goes for the floyd rematch?

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    • IMDAZED
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      #42
      Originally posted by Ljc
      I agree with everything you say here, i dont care who a fighter is signed to, makes no difference to me. I just dont see how signing with roc nation is going to get him a fight for 10million? Surely he'll be fighting for less than that next time out now? Unless he doesnt fight untill september and goes for the floyd rematch?
      Of course you don't see, you aren't involved. All we can do is apply common sense. Which is it had to have been a better deal. Of course there are fourth graders on here who really think this move is based on him avoiding Alvarez or Golovkin or whatever. But the reality is, this was business. Do you know how much Top Rank would've got out of that $10.5m? Do you know what his signing bonus with Roc Nation will be? Do you know what he'll be guaranteed for his next fight? No. All you have to know is that he said Top Rank was offering him crumbs. So obviously whatever he is getting looks like a four course meal in comparison. There are really some delusional ****s on this board.

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      • brickcityboxing
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        #43
        Originally posted by mrlopez
        Todd is respected in the industry for his honesty, integrity and business savy and I havent heard anyone speak down on him. Cotto on the other hand has been proven to have diva like qualities
        I think just not being BOB is a good way to earn respect when it comes to people dealing with TR.

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        • Ljc
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          #44
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Of course you don't see, you aren't involved. All we can do is apply common sense. Which is it had to have been a better deal. Of course there are fourth graders on here who really think this move is based on him avoiding Alvarez or Golovkin or whatever. But the reality is, this was business. Do you know how much Top Rank would've got out of that $10.5m? Do you know what his signing bonus with Roc Nation will be? Do you know what he'll be guaranteed for his next fight? No. All you have to know is that he said Top Rank was offering him crumbs. So obviously whatever he is getting looks like a four course meal in comparison. There are really some delusional ****s on this board.
          Good points well made. I suppose well find out soon enough. I hope he fights some 1 worth fighting next though. I would love to see him fight alverez

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          • BattlingNelson
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            #45
            If Cotto has got a better deal with RN, then who are we to blame him? The only blame we can put on him is that he is likely keeping the belt hostage by not fighting Golovkin.




            Originally posted by Bobby Shmurda
            8 mil guarantee. 15 mill take home when everything was added up ppv n tv rights
            Source please.

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            • GRUSTLER
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              #46
              Originally posted by turnedup
              Besides dates in brooklyn for cotto boxing promotions what the fruckkk can Rocnation offer Cotto? Absolutely nothing but money...$10 million bucks for one fight which would be paying him considerably more than he earned for fighting Floyd and he's complaining. This dude really lives in another universe than everyone else.
              It's in the article. He wants to start putting on concerts and stuff in Puerto Rico and who else better to be in connection with than Jay Z? I think Cotto is looking beyond boxing and more on establishing him self in a major way to be a figure head in Puerto Rico. Can't be mad at him especially since he fought everyone he was supposed to and never b!tched about it. He only started being this way when he entered the big time which is totally understandable. He is the first Puerto Rican to win 4 titles. At some point you have to demand more. I could see Cotto having money longer than Floyd and Manny.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Ljc
                Good points well made. I suppose well find out soon enough. I hope he fights some 1 worth fighting next though. I would love to see him fight alverez
                I hope so too. Obviously, as a fan that's what I want to see. But as a person living in reality, I also see the big picture. Cotto should get a nice win in front of a packed crowd in MSG in June, setting up a big fight in the fall. And if he loses that June fight, he has insured himself.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by hectari
                  I hope its true that Miguel Cotto and JaY z are going to be on firsttake tomorrow. Todd offered him Canelo the BIGGEST fight possible other than Floyd vs. Pac, so that is breadcrumbs now? what is he going to get with Roc Nation? If you think Arum and Haymon hated each other, well Jay Z is basically Haymons enemy for real, Haymon will NEVER EVER EVER do business with Jay, he even told his fighters to forfiet titles when Roc Nation won purse bids. So the only other option for Cottto at 160 is to face GGG lol.

                  I hope they ask him about his split with Todd and Top Rank.

                  Cotto is a cold dude, he is the one who is not loyal, look what he did to his own uncle, his uncle is very strict and like a drill Sargent but he was just doing his job as a trainer Cotto punched him and humiliated him in the gym his OWN uncle just because his uncle told him to stop being lazy.

                  I like watching Cotto fight, but this man got issues just not a nice guy at all, even fellow Puerto Rican boxers don't really like him, Ivan Calderon said the problem with Cotto is he isn't friendly like Tito Trinidad and that is the truth.
                  Cotto is a smart guy no matter how b!tchy he may be. I'm sure the Canelo fight can be made down the line because Golden Boy would be up for it no doubt and Haymon has nothing to do with Canelo so that fight can be done if Jay and Haymon can't do business.

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                  • RoastTeamCon
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                    #49
                    FightHype . com has confirmed that four-division world champion Miguel Cotto will become the second high-profile name to officially announce his signing with Roc Nation Sports. The reigning WBC middleweight champion is expected to reveal the news during a Thursday morning appearance on ESPN First Take before hosting a luncheon with select members of the media in New York.

                    Cotto is following in the footsteps of undefeated super middleweight king Andre Ward, who also recently announced his signing with the Jay-Z owned company earlier this year. The move has left a sour taste in the mouth of Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who has a close relationship with the Puerto Rican star and was hoping to match him against two-division former world champion Timothy Bradley in early June. Cotto's signing with Roc Nation could now impact those plans. It's unclear at this point exactly who Cotto might be facing in the near future, but we're hoping tomorrow's luncheon will answer that question.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #50
                      Top Rank is reeling. I wonder what that Mayweather-duBoef meeting was all about.

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