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Why is Jean Pascal working with the chemist Angel "Memo" Heredia?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by AllBoxingAD View Post
    But there is more to it then that.

    Pascal offered to pay for it but they refused to let him pick who does the tests. Its always this dance of if you ask for something, its gotta be my way. Now I understand it when it comes to money, but they were offered testing for FREE! So there is something with the testing that she didnt like.

    Why are boxers so scared of urine and blood tests nowadays?
    Kovalev would only use VADA because he didn't know anything about Pascal's agency. And as it was his samples he was talking about, and his career that would have been f**ked up by a false reading, he had every right to make that choice.

    VADA do take blood and urine samples, btw.

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    • #22
      I wish there was no testing at all and these guys were pumped full of every chemical they could get.....it would make for better fights.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
        Stop with this fake indignation. Pascal wants to make sure both guys are clean (supposedly), offered to pay for both. Vada is cheaper and more proven than whoever Pascal is in cahoots with. Whats the problem?
        The problem is who is Kathy to tell pascal what to spend his money on. Added to that, Kathy claims not to like any of the testing and that's the reason she didn't put it in initially.

        Your point seems to be pascal looks guilty because he won't pay for vada as Kathy is suggesting. Well doesn't that make Kathy (and by association! Kov) look just as guilty by not asking for it up front?

        You can't have it both ways dude. Kathy is wrong any way you cut it.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          The problem is who is Kathy to tell pascal what to spend his money on. Added to that, Kathy claims not to like any of the testing and that's the reason she didn't put it in initially.

          Your point seems to be pascal looks guilty because he won't pay for vada as Kathy is suggesting. Well doesn't that make Kathy (and by association! Kov) look just as guilty by not asking for it up front?

          You can't have it both ways dude. Kathy is wrong any way you cut it.
          No, shes right. Promoter/fighter contracted testing is a joke, thats clear. But since Pascal embarked on this disgusting PR exercise, they called his bluff.

          If Pascal just wants to make sure both fighters are clean, he should have no issues with Vada, esp since he was willing to pay more for a less proven agency

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          • #25
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
            The problem is who is Kathy to tell pascal what to spend his money on. Added to that, Kathy claims not to like any of the testing and that's the reason she didn't put it in initially.

            Your point seems to be pascal looks guilty because he won't pay for vada as Kathy is suggesting. Well doesn't that make Kathy (and by association! Kov) look just as guilty by not asking for it up front?

            You can't have it both ways dude. Kathy is wrong any way you cut it.

            Man I was right to unleash my wrath upon you, weren't you one of those who insinuated Kovalev was dirty or su****ious when Duva initially rejected testing? If that's the case, you should be quiet given how it turned out. If someone's su****ious now it's Pascal, who refuses Vada testing, no matter how you try to twist it.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by HeroBando View Post
              No, shes right. Promoter/fighter contracted testing is a joke, thats clear. But since Pascal embarked on this disgusting PR exercise, they called his bluff.

              If Pascal just wants to make sure both fighters are clean, he should have no issues with Vada, esp since he was willing to pay more for a less proven agency
              You are shamelessly trying to pass the buck and make it seem pascal is dirty because he won't allow Kathy to determine how he spends his money. You are a joke.

              Kathy is wrong even though you support her. If the testing is garbage, then it doesn't matter which one is used.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by Y0@NN View Post

                Man I was right to unleash my wrath upon you, weren't you one of those who insinuated Kovalev was dirty or su****ious when Duva initially rejected testing? If that's the case, you should be quiet given how it turned out. If someone's su****ious now it's Pascal, who refuses Vada testing, no matter how you try to twist it.
                You are shamelessly trying to pass the buck and make it seem pascal is dirty because he won't allow Kathy to determine how he spends his money. You are a joke.

                Kathy is wrong even though you support her. If the testing is garbage, then it doesn't matter which one is used.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                  You are shamelessly trying to pass the buck and make it seem pascal is dirty because he won't allow Kathy to determine how he spends his money. You are a joke.

                  Kathy is wrong even though you support her. If the testing is garbage, then it doesn't matter which one is used.
                  You guys are straying off the main point. Why is a pos like memo allowed in the sport at all? He is a drug designer. Why does a boxer need a drug designer in his corner?How can anyone defend this at all?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Y0@NN View Post

                    Man I was right to unleash my wrath upon you, weren't you one of those who insinuated Kovalev was dirty or su****ious when Duva initially rejected testing? If that's the case, you should be quiet given how it turned out. If someone's su****ious now it's Pascal, who refuses Vada testing, no matter how you try to twist it.
                    In no way do I think kov is dirty. I asked because you can't have it both ways.

                    Herobando is saying pascal may be dirty because he won't use vada. If you are going with that fine, be man enough to have the same su****ion for the fighter who didn't ask for vada from the beginning.

                    Herobando is a duva supporter who just wants to point fingers to absolve Kathy of being cheap. Problem is her actions are just as bad as pascals.

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                    • #30
                      Duva is guilty of being a cheap c*nt, Pascal is guilty of avoiding vada.

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