The HBO GGG opponent list for May

[mathed]

The available ones are all ****. I'm sure Tureano Johnson is a nice guy, but jeez. Stevens was a fringe fighter when Golovkin fought him. Now the guy who lost to Stevens seems likely to be next.

HBO needs to drop this Haymon ban. It might have been necessary for a while there, but it's no longer sustainable.

I agree but just who does Hymen have that he would let fight GGG?

[-Kev-]

This is what happens when you fight 3-4 times a year. It's been the pattern since he hit the networks: he gets a good fight, he gets a blah fight against someone ranked. Good, blah, good, blah. I'd rather he do that than sit around waiting for good fights that don't happen like half the sport does.

That's the point everyone who criticizes Golovkin doesn't understand. Everyone but the absolute top of the sport fights these blah fights, but most of them do so as their only fight or two of the year while they sit around wasting their time waiting for money.

Depends what is your definition of good though. His past 3 fights before Murray were all blah. Murray was good I admit. Geale, Rubio, Adama are three back to back blah fights in my eyes, pre and post fight I felt the same. That's not good, blah, good, blah, that's more like blah, blah, blah, good. And after Murray now we're getting another set of blah's.

[Jubei]

He will probably fight Tureano and will not get alot of credit for that one, but this guy is really underrated, the way he handled Stevens until he got caught was impressive. Very good infighting, he made Stevens fight his fight and will try the same with GGG, people said they want someone to bring the fight to him and who is on his chest all day long, that will be Tureano. His fight against Stevens shouldnt have been stopped im my opinion either.

[daggum]

Depends what is your definition of good though. His past 3 fights before Murray were all blah. Murray was good I admit. Geale, Rubio, Adama are three back to back blah fights in my eyes, pre and post fight I felt the same. That's not good, blah, good, blah, that's more like blah, blah, blah, good. And after Murray now we're getting another set of blah's.

you think geale was a blah fight yet quillin is a good fight? geale was in the top 3, former unified champ, had only lost debatable split decisions, much better resume than quillin but quillin is undefeated so yea that makes him interesting lol. seeing his sorry ass look scared to death against rosado=blah

[bojangles1987]

Depends what is your definition of good though. His past 3 fights before Murray were all blah. Murray was good I admit. Geale, Rubio, Adama are three back to back blah fights in my eyes, pre and post fight I felt the same. That's not good, blah, good, blah, that's more like blah, blah, blah, good. And after Murray now we're getting another set of blah's.

Geale was at least as good as Murray. By good I mean legit top MWs. All you can ask of a fighter is that they fight the best in their division, and Golovkin does that.

Now the quality of those MWs is of course where most people have a problem, and I'm not bothering with that argument right now. It's not a good division, but Golovkin is not the first or only fighter to stick around dominating a bad division. I'd rather blame the beltholders who won't fight him than Golovkin.

[soul_survivor]

Geale was at least as good as Murray. By good I mean legit top MWs. All you can ask of a fighter is that they fight the best in their division, and Golovkin does that.

Now the quality of those MWs is of course where most people have a problem, and I'm not bothering with that argument right now. It's not a good division, but Golovkin is not the first or only fighter to stick around dominating a bad division. I'd rather blame the beltholders who won't fight him than Golovkin.

GGG has fought 3 top MWs, thats Geale, Macklin and Murray, no one should complain about that.

But there are waaaay too many Rosados and Stevens sprinkled in his "title reign" which will statistically probably overtake other champs but it's a pretty lame reign in all honesty apart from those 3 names. It's the bum of the month club personified.

Now, there's always talk that the top guys don't want to fight each other but names like Johnson and previously Stevens were being highlighted even as GGG was prepping for a fight. So the team has a long term plan of who he fights throughout the year...why not stop pre-planning fights and in this instance, wait for who wins between Lee/Quillin etc. Cos now the excuse will be "we've set a fight and our man needs time to recover after that", this leads to negotiations moving later in the year and reduced time for a meaningful fight.

I'm not buying this BS that no one wants to fight GGG, its just that their team isn't willing to negotiate.

[bojangles1987]

GGG has fought 3 top MWs, thats Geale, Macklin and Murray, no one should complain about that.

But there are waaaay too many Rosados and Stevens sprinkled in his "title reign" which will statistically probably overtake other champs but it's a pretty lame reign in all honesty apart from those 3 names. It's the bum of the month club personified.

Now, there's always talk that the top guys don't want to fight each other but names like Johnson and previously Stevens were being highlighted even as GGG was prepping for a fight. So the team has a long term plan of who he fights throughout the year...why not stop pre-planning fights and in this instance, wait for who wins between Lee/Quillin etc. Cos now the excuse will be "we've set a fight and our man needs time to recover after that", this leads to negotiations moving later in the year and reduced time for a meaningful fight.

I'm not buying this BS that no one wants to fight GGG, its just that their team isn't willing to negotiate.

There's nothing stopping Golovkin from fighting the Lee/Quillin winner anyway. He's fighting like a month after that, they'll have exactly the same downtime. And Golovkin's side has never made any excuse like that. What will stop that fight is if Quillins wins it, because Quillin has made excuses over and over and over and over why he won't fight Golovkin.

Every promoter for every fighter has a long term plan for who they want their fighters to fight. Golovkin's side has shown plenty of willingness to drop plans and make better fights. They did it last year when they convinced the WBA not to enforce Jarrod Fletcher's mandatory so Golovkin could fight Geale.

It's not BS. It's all well documented who has ducked him and who hasn't. You can go down the list of top middleweights and look up the ones who haven't fought him, and I guarantee you'll find excuses by the other side. You're literally making up that they aren't willing to negotiate. There's nothing to suggest that.

[Killer_of_Sheep]

Should fight Lara.

[soul_survivor]

There's nothing stopping Golovkin from fighting the Lee/Quillin winner anyway. He's fighting like a month after that, they'll have exactly the same downtime. And Golovkin's side has never made any excuse like that. What will stop that fight is if Quillins wins it, because Quillin has made excuses over and over and over and over why he won't fight Golovkin.

Every promoter for every fighter has a long term plan for who they want their fighters to fight. Golovkin's side has shown plenty of willingness to drop plans and make better fights. They did it last year when they convinced the WBA not to enforce Jarrod Fletcher's mandatory so Golovkin could fight Geale.

It's not BS. It's all well documented who has ducked him and who hasn't. You can go down the list of top middleweights and look up the ones who haven't fought him, and I guarantee you'll find excuses by the other side. You're literally making up that they aren't willing to negotiate. There's nothing to suggest that.

those long term fighters shouldn't include nobodies, simple as.

[BostonGuy]

Btw can someone explain to me how the WBA titles work?

Golovkin is currently the WBA Super champion.
Danny Jacobs is the WBA regular champion.

Does this mean Jacobs is in a mandatory position for Golovkin or are they basically two separate titles in the same weight class?

Can't stand the WBA and all their belts.

Let me go find a ******ed crackhead, and then I will hit him in the head with a brick. When he wakes up he might be able to explain it to you because no rational person is explaining the WBA and their titles.

I would put it this way the WWE is a bit more selective in giving out belts than the WBA.

Yea, he's the mandatory for GGG.... but he only has to defend it once ever 1.5 years. That's the maximum time he's allowed to go w/o defending it. If they're that thirsty for a fight, tell the WBA to enforce a mandatory...but they won't do anything.... doing that will hurt their revenue



I'm surprise people would think that's better

The WWE is smart enough to protect their brand. They understand that if there is an oversaturation of titles it weakens it. The WBA is motivated only by short term greed.

As long as fighters legitimize these faux titles by fighting for them, there will always be a place for them in the sport