Comments Thread For: Marquez: Pacquiao Must Try To Knock Mayweather Out

[therealpugilist]

Fraud is gonna get hurt, Pacquiao's awkwardness will kill his boxing intelligence in the ring. I'm seeing fear in his eyes once he tastes that big left from Manny like everyone else.

When have you ever seen Mayweather get hit hard and he didn't try to respond immediately or bust the other guy up?


Corely buzzed him and after that he beat on Corely like no one before and I believe he was the first to drop corely

When Judah hit him with big lefts he started to bust him up round after round


When mosley hit him with those 2 big right hands....from that round on he pushed Mosley around and beat him up, he was close to Richardson stopping the fight around 7-9

Hatton tried to rough him up and got knocked out

Maidana hit him with that hard right in his last fight and didn't land it again and lost a wider decision



Either yall have so much hate that yall ignore what actually goes on in his fights or you never watched them to begin with

[VapeRippa]

But you will need a far away place to hide your depression .

Damn you're a sad individual 24/7 making posts that don't make sense, spouting the same incoherent ish over and over.

Lmao at your post claiming you won 5k betting on May/Hatton when Floyd was the clear favorite. A person like you probably never seen a $100 dollar bill.

"Easy work tho", "that midget be getting spanked", pretty sad to spend even 10 minutes as a sad ****** lowlife like you or Dunn.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Sadly the only way Pacquaio can win is by kayo IMO...if he did win a decision it would be because he scored kd's. If he doesn't he has no chance.




1)Mayweather is just better at doing more things in the ring.

2) He is not gonna outfight Mayweather at long range or mid range for full a full 12 rounds or win 7, and he isn't very effective cutting off the ring or fighting off the back foot....he excels at pivot angles and so does Floyd, who has so many more technical fascades to his game

3) Manny has been outboxed by lesser fighters like Juan Manuel Marquez, Erik Morales, and Bradley made him look wholly average in both their fights.

4) Mayweather will be the hardest puncher Manny Pacquaio has faced since his kayo loss....Rios is a pressure fighter who was a big lightweight but the only stoppage he has over is over shopworn Alvarez, Bradley has like a 33% kayo ratio, and Chris Algieri has 8 kos in 20+ fights.

5) If you think Mayweather wont hurt Manny lunging in, then I suggest you watch the rematch with Bradley, who doesn't have the speed, accuracy, or power of Mayweather...Mayweather hits harder than JMM @ ww and is physically stronger and is faster with better timing and accuracy



Manny's best shot is an early round ko when Mayweather is zeroing in on finding range, rhythm, etc....the longer the fight goes, the less chance he has of winning....cant wait til may 2nd

1. Then again, Floyd and Pacquiao are two different types of fighters. Pacquiao's does some things better than Floyd as well.

2. Pacquiao is not only fast and a southpaw but he himself is good at timing shots and countering with cleaning hits of his own.

3. Lesser opponents? Those were world class opponents that he's not only beaten but has fought more than once. Meanwhile, this will be the first time Floyd has fought a world class southpaw...after he just got done struggling against a lower level opponent he was suppose to school. Manny is above the likes of Judah and Guerrero and doesn't possess the weaknesses they have. Pacquiao has way more experience at fighting against his "kryptonite" than Floyd does.

4. You're underrating Rios's power. He still possess a lot of power at 147 and managed to stop Alvarado when Marquez couldn't. Pacquiao took some solid shots from Rios and still kept landing more of his own. Floyd, on the other hand, doesn't even seem to be putting a dent on his opponents lately. His punches only stings at best. I think Maidana said even Broner hits harder than Floyd.

5. Pacquiao took Bradley's punches just fine and still kept on fighting until he eventually dominated the rest of the fight. You also forget, Bradley was trying to go for the KO and like so many people, greatly underestimated Manny's chin. It would be dumb for Floyd to attempt to do the same thing when he himself hasn't displayed much power lately and since Pacquiao not easy to hit some people think for some reason. In addition to that, you can bet that once Floyd tastes Manny's own power, he'll be EXTRA careful to not get hit with anymore of those (though he most certainly will).

[PAC-BOY]

No

Maidana is actually a welterweight contender, Rios isn't even a top 20 welterweight, he aint done **** there

Maidana was the WBA welterweight champion, was a top ten contender at 140 as well....has wins over former welterweight titleholders Broner(WBA) and Victor Ortiz(wbc)...also titlists from lower weights Corely,and Erik Morales
and fought elite welterweights like Alexander and Khan


Rios best wins are against @ lightweight and 140....Alvarado, Acosta and never has won a title or beat a top ten contender above 135 not named Alvarado with a loss to Pacquiao and draw with Chaves @ 147....Alvarado was never a top ten welterweight and that last fight they had was sad to see


Therefore at welterweight they are not on the same level and I'd favor Maidana over Rios in a barnburner

So lets just say...WHAT IF. What if Maidana and Rios fought. And Rios won! What would you think then?

[therealpugilist]

1. Then again, Floyd and Pacquiao are two different types of fighters. Pacquiao's does some things better than Floyd as well.

2. Pacquiao is not only fast and a southpaw but he himself is good at timing shots and countering with cleaning hits of his own. Floyd

3. Lesser opponents? Those were world class opponents that he's not only beaten but has fought more than once. Meanwhile, this will be the first time Floyd has fought a world class southpaw. Manny is above the likes of Judah and Guerrero and doesn't possess the weaknesses they have. Pacquiao has way more experience at fighting against his "kryptonite" than Floyd does.

4. You're underrating Rios's power. He still possess a lot of power at 147 and managed to stop Alvarado when Marquez couldn't. Pacquiao took some solid shots from Rios and still kept landing more of his own. Floyd, on the other hand, doesn't even seem to be putting a dent on his opponents lately. His punches only stings at best. I think Maidana said even Broner hits harder than Floyd.

5. Pacquiao took Bradley's punches just fine and still kept on fighting until he eventually dominated the rest of the fight. You also forget, Bradley was trying to go for the KO and like so many people, greatly underestimated Manny's chin. It would be dumb for Floyd to attempt to do the same thing when he himself hasn't displayed much power lately. In addition to that, you can bet that once Floyd tastes Manny's own power, he'll be EXTRA careful to not get hit with anymore of those (though he most certainly will).

1) what does he do better than Floyd in the ring? throw more punches? that's not a skill bro

2)Mayweather is more aggressive but he is not as accurate or is near the counterpuncher Mayweather is....its not close and you know it

3)Correct Manny is a better fighter than the Judah and Gurrero Floyd beat...Mayweather is also better than the Morales and JMM that outboxed him and KHTFO...He doesn't possess the weaknesses they have because he has his own weaknesses.....Judah, Corely and Guerrero were world class southpaws...all 3 were top ten at the time he fought them and Judah actually was undisputed welterweight champion and 3x 140 titlist in his career.

4)Mike Alavarado has been in back to back to back tough fights...do you really believe he was at his best and his punch resistance was the same since his first fight with rios....Provodnikov took what was left of his prime

Mayweather is more accurate, faster and is also a better puncher than rios who is square and throws arm punches.....his uppercuts are good but overall he isn't a great puncher at 147...level of competition will show that

5)Pacquaio was visibly wobbled by a fighter that isn't as accurate, fast or hits as hard as Floyd...Mayweather wouldn't be dumb enough to used that idiotic fight plan....Mayweather times his shots and timing beats speed

[therealpugilist]

So lets just say...WHAT IF. What if Maidana and Rios fought. And Rios won! What would you think then?

If...Rios won


As of today they are not on the same level....Maidana has faced and beat the better fighters and is actually ranked in the top ten

Rios isn't top 20....don't make stuff up to support an agenda trying to pump up Rios into something he is not... which is.a top welterweight contender

[PAC-BOY]

If...Rios won


As of today they are not on the same level....Maidana has faced and beat the better fighters and is actually ranked in the top ten

Rios isn't top 20....don't make stuff up to support an agenda trying to pump up Rios into something he is not... which is.a top welterweight contender

If Rios won...despite your opinion, It wouldnt matter anyways. Youre only good as your last fight. As we say in the Gym. Rios and Maidana can be on the same level. I understand your logic, i really do. Im not saying its all flawed. But i wont ignore the idea that Rios survived 12 rounds with Pacquiao. Maidana has no fighter on his resume like that. Closest thing to that is Khan. Not Floyd. Kahn beat him. Floyd beat him. And those two wont Beat Manny!
SO Rios and Maidana would be a great fight with two evenly matched warriors. A great fight. Not saying id pick Rios to win. I wouldnt. But putting Rios on a lower level than Maidana just to make floyd look special is bullshlt! This has been WHY most casual Fans have looked at Floyd as some sensation.
I thought you were smarter than that!

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

1) what does he do better than Floyd in the ring? throw more punches? that's not a skill bro

2)Mayweather is more aggressive but he is not as accurate or is near the counterpuncher Mayweather is....its not close and you know it

3)Correct Manny is a better fighter than the Judah and Gurrero Floyd beat...Mayweather is also better than the Morales and JMM that outboxed him and KHTFO...He doesn't possess the weaknesses they have because he has his own weaknesses.....Judah, Corely and Guerrero were world class southpaws...all 3 were top ten at the time he fought them and Judah actually was undisputed welterweight champion and 3x 140 titlist in his career.

4)Mike Alavarado has been in back to back to back tough fights...do you really believe he was at his best and his punch resistance was the same since his first fight with rios....Provodnikov took what was left of his prime

Mayweather is more accurate, faster and is also a better puncher than rios who is square and throws arm punches.....his uppercuts are good but overall he isn't a great puncher at 147...level of competition will show that

5)Pacquaio was visibly wobbled by a fighter that isn't as accurate, fast or hits as hard as Floyd...Mayweather wouldn't be dumb enough to used that idiotic fight plan....Mayweather times his shots and timing beats speed

1. How about Pacquiao is a better aggressive fighter than Floyd? Ever thought about that?

2. Say that again?

3. Judah lost every time he stepped it up and who has Corley and Guerrero beaten? Face it, those guys are not world class fighters. They're b/c level fighters at best. Meanwhile, we all know Marquez and Morales more highly skilled opponents who has beaten bigger names than them.

4. Yeah, Alvarado has been having some brutal matches lately but still, he comes from going the distance with Marquez to getting stopped in three by Rios? And it's not just because of Alvarado's punching resistance waning, it was also because of Rios's power. This pretty much shows that Rios move to welterweight probably long overdue.

5. Have you ever thought that maybe Bradley has more power than some people think? After all, he darn near dropped Marquez at the end of their last round. Bradley was swinging with the intention of knocking Pacquiao out and it backfired. Floyd isn't gong to be doing that and even if he tried, it wouldn't work. He just doesn't have the power to do that.

Besides, Floyd just got wobbled by a guy who isn't as fast Paquiao and had the spin the whole next round on the defensive as a result of that.

[therealpugilist]

If Rios won...despite your opinion, It wouldnt matter anyways. Youre only good as your last fight. As we say in the Gym. Rios and Maidana can be on the same level. I understand your logic, i really do. Im not saying its all flawed. But i wont ignore the idea that Rios survived 12 rounds with Pacquiao. Maidana has no fighter on his resume like that. Closest thing to that is Khan. Not Floyd. Kahn beat him. Floyd beat him. And those two wont Beat Manny!
SO Rios and Maidana would be a great fight with two evenly matched warriors. A great fight. Not saying id pick Rios to win. I wouldnt. But putting Rios on a lower level than Maidana just to make floyd look special is bullshlt! This has been WHY most casual Fans have looked at Floyd as some sensation.
I thought you were smarter than that!

my logic involves no if ands or buts...no should have, could have, would have


these are the facts....Maidana is a former welterweight title holder and currently a top ten contender


Rios is a former lightweight titleholder who campaigns at welterweight, who is not a top ten contender and never beat a top ten contender at the weight


losing to Pacquaio does not make him a better fighter and I don't give a fighter credit just because he didn't get kayoed

that's like saying Algieri is on Marquez level cause they both went the distance...going the distance with a fighter better than you doesn't make you any better than a ko loss...it looks better but a loss is a loss


Maidana has beaten and defeated better fighters and more contenders than Rios, especially above 140 so there is no real argument.....Maidana is more proven and is a better fighter

It would be a great fight because of Rios' heart, desire, chin, and inside game but I'd favor Maidana because he is physically stronger, hits harder, has a better jab and actually times some of his shots....Rios resembles a punching bag at the elite level

[therealpugilist]

1. How about Pacquiao is a better aggressive fighter than Floyd? Ever thought about that?

2. Say that again?

3. Judah lost every time he stepped it up and who has Corley and Guerrero beaten? Face it, those guys are not world class fighters. They're b/c level fighters at best. Meanwhile, we all know Marquez and Morales more highly skilled opponents who has beaten bigger names than them.

4. Yeah, Alvarado has been having some brutal matches lately but still, he comes from going the distance with Marquez to getting stopped in three by Rios? And it's not just because of Alvarado's punching resistance waning, it was also because of Rios's power. This pretty much shows that Rios move to welterweight probably long overdue.

5. Have you ever thought that maybe Bradley has more power than some people think? After all, he darn near dropped Marquez at the end of their last round. Bradley was swinging with the intention of knocking Pacquiao out and it backfired. Floyd isn't gong to be doing that and even if he tried, it wouldn't work. He just doesn't have the power to do that.

Besides, Floyd just got wobbled by a guy who isn't as fast Paquiao and had the spin the whole next round on the defensive as a result of that.

2) I meant to say Pacquaio isn't as good at that