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    #17381
    Originally posted by V.WEBB
    And all we heard was how Manny's speed would really bother Floyd.
    Well if he's tentative (thanks to the KO) it wouldn't. He got knocked out for 5minutes in 2012, came back and was tentative against featherfisted Bradley.

    And it did bother Floyd, he landed more clean shots than I've seen any opponent land, clean hard counters, wobbled him on many occasions.

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      #17382
      Originally posted by V.WEBB
      And all we heard was how Manny's speed would really bother Floyd.
      Exactly. But Floyd's fought speed before.

      I kept reading "Floyd's never fought anyone like Pacquaio" and ever time I responded with "But Pacquaio hasn't fought anyone like Floyd before either".

      I didn't expect Pacquaio's speed to trouble Floyd. He's seen great hand speed before.

      It was Pacquaio I thought might struggle with the speed and it seemed that way.

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        #17383
        Originally posted by IronDanHamza
        Exactly. But Floyd's fought speed before.

        I kept reading "Floyd's never fought anyone like Pacquaio" and ever time I responded with "But Pacquaio hasn't fought anyone like Floyd before either".

        I didn't expect Pacquaio's speed to trouble Floyd. He's seen great hand speed before.

        It was Pacquaio I thought might struggle with the speed and it seemed that way.
        When Pacquiao is retreating after feints, you know it is. A 38 year old Mayweather was still faster than anyone Pacquiao has ever seen. Pacquiao, in my opinion, wasn't even faster than Judah.

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          #17384
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Exactly. But Floyd's fought speed before.

          I kept reading "Floyd's never fought anyone like Pacquaio" and ever time I responded with "But Pacquaio hasn't fought anyone like Floyd before either".

          I didn't expect Pacquaio's speed to trouble Floyd. He's seen great hand speed before.

          It was Pacquaio I thought might struggle with the speed and it seemed that way.
          No doubt.

          I also knew that Floyd's size, length, defense, and skills would slow Manny down considerably.

          The responses I got?

          Manny is too fast!!! angles!!! the shoulder roll doesn't work against southpaws. darting in and out!!! if he doesn't knock Floyd out, he will out work him!!!

          Sure, buddy.

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            #17385
            Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
            When Pacquiao is retreating after feints, you know it is. A 38 year old Mayweather was still faster than anyone Pacquiao has ever seen. Pacquiao, in my opinion, wasn't even faster than Judah.
            That's the amazing part when I sit back and look at this fight. The detractors argue like Floyd is 25 in his prime and has NEVER aged, but the man is 38 years old. 38. And had Manny all kinds of confused.

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              #17386
              Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
              When Pacquiao is retreating after feints, you know it is. A 38 year old Mayweather was still faster than anyone Pacquiao has ever seen. Pacquiao, in my opinion, wasn't even faster than Judah.
              Oh defintely.

              2006 Judah was faster than 2015 Pacquaio.

              Pacquaio still damn fast, Floyd just neutralised it.

              38 year old Floyd was still far and beyond faster than anyone Pacquaio's faced. Like I said, Pacquaio has never really fought anyone with speed. The fastest guy he's fought is probably Bradley or Cotto. Neither are overly fast.

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                #17387
                Originally posted by V.WEBB
                That's the amazing part when I sit back and look at this fight. The detractors argue like Floyd is 25 in his prime and has NEVER aged, but the man is 38 years old. 38. And had Manny all kinds of confused.
                38 is the same age Mosley was when he fought Floyd and we all know how ancient Mosley was after that fight happened

                I mean, Oscar was 34 when he fought Floyd and he was old as hell.

                Cotto was what? 32?

                People age differently but just shows. 38 years old and a 20 year pro. I.e old as hell.

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                  #17388
                  Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
                  So prior to the fight, it was generally thought that Manny had faster hands and feet than Mayweather. In the ring we saw guys who were roughly the same speed. Now, this would be indicative of either Manny's speed being overrated or that his athleticism is deteriorating at a more rapid pace. So either Manny never was faster or he is deteriorating at a more rapid rate, now what implications does that have on a rematch?
                  In a rematch, Pacquiao can only fight more aggressively like the ATGs had hoped for and even warned him to. Mayweather's offense can only get better.

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                    #17389
                    Originally posted by V.WEBB
                    No doubt.

                    I also knew that Floyd's size, length, defense, and skills would slow Manny down considerably.

                    The responses I got?

                    Manny is too fast!!! angles!!! the shoulder roll doesn't work against southpaws. darting in and out!!! if he doesn't knock Floyd out, he will out work him!!!

                    Sure, buddy.
                    My favorite was the gif of him (Manny) swinging on the 5'nothing Vilora and the tards going crazy saying "see, see right there that is what Floyd is going to see!" The saddest part of all of this is they still until this day don't give Floyd his just due. Dude is P4P #1 in the world. I am a Floyd fan but I give credit to Manny dude is good it's just that Floyd is levels better. May they drawn in their salty tears

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                      #17390
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      38 is the same age Mosley was when he fought Floyd and we all know how ancient Mosley was after that fight happened

                      I mean, Oscar was 34 when he fought Floyd and he was old as hell.

                      Cotto was what? 32?

                      People age differently but just shows. 38 years old and a 20 year pro. I.e old as hell.
                      Absolutely. But he's held in such high regard that his detractors won't even acknowledge that he's 38 and pretty far from his best.

                      Instead, they scream for him to fight a certain guy, then when that guy can't beat him, they talk about how past it the guy was, while NEVER acknowledging that Floyd is past it as well.

                      Funny stuff.

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