New Ring P4P ratings

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I remember when ESPN still had their message board. I at one point anointed Mikey Garcia as having the best jab in the game. i was told, he has not fought anyone to make that statement. So just cause Golovkin beat someone by knockout, who obviously, are not on the level of Trout or Lara does not mean its necessarily a better win. Maybe fighting the number 1 guys at the time is not an easy knockout. And I bolded that part because in 3 of Canelo last 4 fights, he has fought either the best in the division or the number 2 guy.

Trout and Lara are just ranked contenders with coverage on networks. I would money on GGG to defeat both of them by stoppage. Close, controversial wins over those two does not make Canelo a better fighter than GGG head to head. If GGG had the luxury of being a cash cow he would have gotten bigger and better fights too against Martinez, Sturm, Barker, N'Dam and all of the other top contenders that ducked him.

[Beater_of_ass]

Who has GGG beaten though? Nobody

Canelo has beaten Mosley,Trout and Lara and took Mayweather to a MD.
Far more impressive than anything GGG has done. GGG also never took a belt of any champion. His WBA was handed to him and his IBO was a vacant against some American bum named "Lajuan Simon"

Golovkin is lucky to feature on the list at all

I stopped reading when you gave Canelo credit for beating Shane. You lose all credibility right there... People were saying Martinez was shot should watch that fight lol.

[Jim Jeffries]

My list, though not yet set in stone.

1 floyd mayweather jr.

2 manny pacquiao

3 guillermo rigondeaux

4 roman gonzalez

5 wladimir klitschko

6 carl froch

7 miguel cotto

8 juan manuel marquez

9 sergey kovalev

10 gennady golovkin

[Loque-san]

How are fantasy fights irrelevant? It's a ****ing fantasy list

That's why Rigondeaux is so high with only one notable win. Because of his skills and how he would fare head to head if everybody on that list was the same size. Outside of Donaire, Rigondeaux's resume is very GGG'ish.

GGG would run through Canelo's entire resume. Who you beat is only one factor. You also have to consider how you beat your opposition and how you would fare against others on that list.

That wouldn't mean much, Canelo's resume is made of welterweights or former welterweights/jr. middleweights.

[Daddy T]

My list, though not yet set in stone.

1 floyd mayweather jr.

2 manny pacquiao

3 guillermo rigondeaux

4 roman gonzalez

5 wladimir klitschko

6 carl froch

7 miguel cotto

8 juan manuel marquez

9 sergey kovalev

10 gennady golovkin

i prefer this list

[RaTaTa]

ClowNelo over Kovalev?

[bigjavi973]

Who has GGG beaten though? Nobody

Canelo has beaten Mosley,Trout and Lara and took Mayweather to a MD.
Far more impressive than anything GGG has done. GGG also never took a belt of any champion. His WBA was handed to him and his IBO was a vacant against some American bum named "Lajuan Simon"

Golovkin is lucky to feature on the list at all

[HanzGruber]

Well to be fair canelos best wins poop on golovkins best wins even if they are controversial

[DoktorSleepless]

How are fantasy fights irrelevant? It's a ****ing fantasy list

I thought meant if it they literally fought like at 160, not a fantasy fight where they're both naturally the same size and acclimated in the same division. No, I don't believe Golovkin would blow out Trout the same he would blow out the rest of the crappy middleweight division. But yeah, fantasy fights are obviously more important than actual fights so, go ahead and crown him the p4p fantasy king. I shouldn't complain. It's your fantasies.

And if you want to talk about how looking impressive matters, Geale he has never looked impressive. The Australian commentators thought freaken Sebastian Sylvester beat Geale in his first title win. Geale vs Sturm was even as hell, and ****ing Soliman beat Sturm is much more decisive fashion.

[smoothsmg]

Rigo is easily the most skilled boxer in the pros today. Records are only one aspect to use while grading a fighters skill level. His techniques and methods applied to win is more important to view if the opponents avalible are below
top level competition.
Decent competition is between 140 to 154 right now, 175 can be upgraded if the boys "hiding" at 168 would step up!

To consider Wlad a P4P top boxer is pretty silly, he's as one dimentional
as Koval but atleast Koval fights instead of wrestles and leans to hold.

Mayweather desetves recognition because he is talented and intelligent in the ring but a p4p fighter should be offensive not just defensive.

Only two pros interest me right now.....Rigo because of his technique level and........
GGG because of his method.
The rest are just floundering around waiting on others to define them instead of taking on all challenges.

Ray.

I know its not a popular choice but klitschko has not lost in 11 years and is on a 21 fight win streak. If he is not 1 or 2, then there should not be a list.