New Ring P4P ratings

[f15bone]

I'm good with 1-5, but 6-10 needs some adjusting....

[Cut Man]

Why is Marquez still there?

To be fair. He has just as much right to be on there as Manny Pacquiao does

Pretty good list I would say.
It's a good list. I love seeing my guy Roman "Chocolatito" Gonzalez up there at 4th. I believe after Floyd he will be P4P king.

Swap Canelo for Kovalev and its a really good list.

I agree Kovalev should be on but take GGG off instead of Canelo

Marquez shouldn't be in that list.

All he has contributed in over 2 years is a loss to Bradley and a win over Alvarado who was coming off a stoppage loss to Provodnikov.

To be fair. He has just as much right to be on there as Manny Pacquiao does

How is a champion who has reigned for a decade pukeworthy?

Klitschko deserves his spot. Heavyweights have just as much right to be on the P4P list as lighter fighters, Especially one as dominant as Wlad

I can see people dont like Golovkin not being above Canelo, but tell me without thinking which 4 fight sequence is better

Boxer A fights Curtis Stevens, Osumanu Adama, Daniel Geale, and Marco Antonio Rubio.

Boxer B fights Austin Trout, Floyd Mayweather, Alfredo Angulo, and Erislandy Lara.

Besides, after Floyd, Klitschko, and i guess manny, does it really matter who is on this opinion list?

Yes Canelo has a stronger list than GGG. Floyd is the King. Wlad 2nd and personally I'd give 3rd to Roman Gonzalez.

Klinchko #2, what a joke. Floyd being #1 p4p is a joke beating maidana twice doesn't make you p4p #1

You can't take Floyd off the top though. When he's the only fighter to hold titles in 2 weight divisions at the same time.

**** list, Andre Ward is omitted

What has ward done lately though?

What's wrong with Canelo?

If anybody shouldn't be on that list it's Marquez. He iced Manny almost 2,5 years ago, it's time to move on.

Angulo, Lara > Alvarado

What gives Pacquiaoo the right to be there and not Marquez? Chris Algieri?

Canelo's win's over Lara and Trout is better than anything Golovkin has done. I'm not sure either even belong in the list yet, but there's nothing crazy about Canelo being above Golovkin.

Agreed. Canelo has every right to be there. and be above GGG

GGG killed the guys he faced... Canelo lost 3 out of 4 those fights.

Canelo only ever lost once and that was to Floyd. You have to take the class of opposition into account. Canelo has beaten better guys than GGG has

[smoothsmg]

Trout and Lara are just ranked contenders with coverage on networks. I would money on GGG to defeat both of them by stoppage. Close, controversial wins over those two does not make Canelo a better fighter than GGG head to head. If GGG had the luxury of being a cash cow he would have gotten bigger and better fights too against Martinez, Sturm, Barker, N'Dam and all of the other top contenders that ducked him.

We are dealing with what happened, not fantasy land. Lara and trout get "coverage on networks" for a reason, as opposed to most of Golovkins last 4-6 opponents. Again, in 3 of his last 4 fights, Canelo has either faced the best in the division or the number 2 guy. I dont see the argument. I could not care less who ducked Golovkin, reality is the fights that happened in the ring.

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I thought meant if it they literally fought like at 160, not a fantasy fight where they're both naturally the same size and acclimated in the same division. No, I don't believe Golovkin would blow out Trout the same he would blow out the rest of the crappy middleweight division. But yeah, fantasy fights are obviously more important than actual fights so, go ahead and crown him the p4p fantasy king. I shouldn't complain. It's your fantasies.

And if you want to talk about how looking impressive matters, Geale he has never looked impressive. The Australian commentators thought freaken Sebastian Sylvester beat Geale in his first title win. Geale vs Sturm was even as hell, and ****ing Same Soliman beat Sturm is much more decisive fashion.

Resume is only one piece of the puzzle. And Canelo's resume is not enough to make up for GGG's dominance and level of skill. I like this cute little game of "blindfold myself to the facts" that everybody has going on when it comes to Golovkin. "GGG has fought nothing but bums. Let's keep pretending like he hasn't been literally begging to fight the best MWs in the world for the past 3 years."

Sergio Martinez - Wanted no parts of him. DiBella was in fear.
Quillin - ducked him
N'Dam - ducked him
Sturm - ducked him
Pirog - Injured before the fight took place
Cotto - ducking him now

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We are dealing with what happened, not fantasy land. Lara and trout get "coverage on networks" for a reason, as opposed to most of Golovkins last 4-6 opponents. Again, in 3 of his last 4 fights, Canelo has either faced the best in the division or the number 2 guy. I dont see the argument. I could not care less who ducked Golovkin, reality is the fights that happened in the ring.

Then move Rigondeaux down too. Because Bradley fought and beat better fighters. He should be ranked higher.

[HeroBando]

I can't believe Canelo just got in. This is as worse as the Bradley controversy.

He didnt just get in, it says hes been p4p ranked for 91 weeks. So he was first ranked after beating Trout, which is a joke

[Hougigo]

Oh, they took Ward out?

[Beater_of_ass]

Canelo only ever lost once and that was to Floyd. You have to take the class of opposition into account. Canelo has beaten better guys than GGG has

Who? Lara and Trout are B level fighters like Geale, Rubio, Rosado, Murray, Macklin... All B level fighters and he fought them in their division and he won all by KO. 2 questionable decisions against the only JMW he faced is supposed to be impressive? You grade on one ****ed up curve, you must be drunk.

[Cut Man]

Canelos resume ****s all over GGG man

I won't go as far as to say "****s all over" but it is better.

Froch should be 4th and move everyone down. I agree with Dunn though, take Marquez off and add probably Garcia. I honestly would take Bradley off considering he has not won a fight since 2013.

Froch over Roman Gonzalez? Can't co-sign that. Froch belongs on the list. I'll give you that, but not above "Chocolatito"

Trout is quite obviously better than Geale.

Yeah I think Trout would beat Geale

I'm surprised Broner's win over Taylor wasn't enough for Giampa to put him back in there.

He Never had it

[Ray Corso]

I agree get rid of the list!!!

Rigo is #1 the rest are the................rest!