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  • Cut Man
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    #51
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass
    How in the hell is Canelo above GGG? How is Canelo in the top 10 at all... It's Oscars magazine, nevermind.
    Who has GGG beaten though? Nobody

    Canelo has beaten Mosley,Trout and Lara and took Mayweather to a MD.
    Far more impressive than anything GGG has done. GGG also never took a belt of any champion. His WBA was handed to him and his IBO was a vacant against some American bum named "Lajuan Simon"

    Golovkin is lucky to feature on the list at all

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    • bojangles1987
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      #52
      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
      Trout is quite obviously better than Geale.
      How is he quite obviously better than Geale? Because of the Cotto fight? Come on.

      Trout is pretty average. If he's better than Geale at all, it's a small enough margin where Golovkin blowing Geale out is much better than Alvarez arguably losing to Trout.

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      • Ray Corso
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        #53
        Rigo is easily the most skilled boxer in the pros today. Records are only one aspect to use while grading a fighters skill level. His techniques and methods applied to win is more important to view if the opponents avalible are below
        top level competition.
        Decent competition is between 140 to 154 right now, 175 can be upgraded if the boys "hiding" at 168 would step up!

        To consider Wlad a P4P top boxer is pretty silly, he's as one dimentional
        as Koval but atleast Koval fights instead of wrestles and leans to hold.

        Mayweather desetves recognition because he is talented and intelligent in the ring but a p4p fighter should be offensive not just defensive.

        Only two pros interest me right now.....Rigo because of his technique level and........
        GGG because of his method.
        The rest are just floundering around waiting on others to define them instead of taking on all challenges.

        Ray.

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        • DoktorSleepless
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          #54
          Originally posted by PBP
          Not by much and blowing Geale out of the arena in 3 rounds is more impressive than a close fight with Trout.
          Blowing out average fighters is too be expected. I respect close fights with good fighters waay more than blowing out crappy opposition.

          How would GGG vs. Trout turn out you think?
          Irrelavent. Different weight classes. On the other hand, Golovkin is the king of fantasy fights so maybe does belong at the top of a fantasy list.

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          • smoothsmg
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            #55
            Originally posted by PBP
            Not only about who you beat, but how you beat them. GGG blasts all of his opponents out of the water. And with the exception of Adama those were all ranked contenders. Canelo not so much.
            I remember when ESPN still had their message board. I at one point anointed Mikey Garcia as having the best jab in the game. i was told, he has not fought anyone to make that statement. So just cause Golovkin beat someone by knockout, who obviously, are not on the level of Trout or Lara does not mean its necessarily a better win. Maybe fighting the number 1 guys at the time is not an easy knockout. And I bolded that part because in 3 of Canelo last 4 fights, he has fought either the best in the division or the number 2 guy.

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            • Cut Man
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              #56
              Originally posted by Pigeons
              #2 and 9 are pukeworthy.

              Klitschko is awesome, What are you talking about? And Canelo will soon move up to 160 and dominate the division.

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              • bojangles1987
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                #57
                Originally posted by Cut Man
                Who has GGG beaten though? Nobody

                Canelo has beaten Mosley,Trout and Lara and took Mayweather to a MD.
                Far more impressive than anything GGG has done. GGG also never took a belt of any champion. His WBA was handed to him and his IBO was a vacant against some American bum named "Lajuan Simon"

                Golovkin is lucky to feature on the list at all
                Look at this troll, Alvarez took Mayweather to a MD.

                I guess Mayweather isn't very good if he struggled to a majority decision over a guy who needed crooked cards to secure wins over Austin Trout and Erislandy Lara.

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                • -PBP-
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                  Blowing out average fighters is too be expected. I respect close fights with good fighters waay more than blowing out crappy opposition.


                  Irrelavent. Different weight classes. On the other hand, Golovkin is the king of fantasy fights so maybe does belong at the top of a fantasy list.
                  How are fantasy fights irrelevant? It's a ****ing fantasy list

                  That's why Rigondeaux is so high with only one notable win. Because of his skills and how he would fare head to head if everybody on that list was the same size. Outside of Donaire, Rigondeaux's resume is very GGG'ish.

                  GGG would run through Canelo's entire resume. Who you beat is only one factor. You also have to consider how you beat your opposition and how you would fare against others on that list.

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                  • Beercules
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Cut Man
                    Who has GGG beaten though? Nobody

                    Canelo has beaten Mosley,Trout and Lara and took Mayweather to a MD.
                    Far more impressive than anything GGG has done. GGG also never took a belt of any champion. His WBA was handed to him and his IBO was a vacant against some American bum named "Lajuan Simon"

                    Golovkin is lucky to feature on the list at all
                    Lol took Floyd to a MD.



                    FFS

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                    • smoothsmg
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Weebler I
                      In the time Canelo fought those 4, Golovkin's list actually looks like this:

                      Ishida, Macklin, Stevens, Adama, Geale, Rubio (all stopped)


                      while Canelo's looks like this

                      Trout, Angulo, Lara
                      Why you leave Floyd off Canelo list?

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