Is Canelo the real deal?

[Black Barty]

For so long, Canelo was a pampered joke, winning the vacant WBC lmw crown against a career junior welter lol but since then, he has started to impress me, it started with the methodical beat down of a faded Rhodes, then he had a lucky match up against Gomez and in all honesty a too close fight against a shot to **** Mosley but he showed improvement, heart, power and skill in all those fights. The Trout fight did it for me though, it was close but Canelo deserved the nod, he showed class and better defence than he had in years. He bullied the taller Trout in there, a man coming off of beating Cotto.


The mayweather fight came too early and was a farce but I can't argue with him getting the better of Lara, the guy everyone said would make Canelo look a fool.

Same for me. Before the Trout fight I was convinced Canelo was all hype and would be exposed by the first decent jr. MW he faced. But he earned my respect vs Trout.

And him winning vs Lara was one of the best moments of my boxing fandom. He put everything on the line against a high risk/low reward opponent that was a horrible style matchup for him and won. And he didn't lose his nerve when things weren't looking good in the first couple of rounds. He kept doing his thing and found a way. The maturity he showed in that fight belies his age. How can anyone not be a fan of that?

[soul_survivor]

Same for me. Before the Trout fight I was convinced Canelo was all hype and would be exposed by the first decent jr. MW he faced. But he earned my respect vs Trout.

And him winning vs Lara was one of the best moments of my boxing fandom. He put everything on the line against a high risk/low reward opponent that was a horrible style matchup for him and won. And he didn't lose his nerve when things weren't looking good in the first couple of rounds. He kept doing his thing and found a way. The maturity he showed in that fight belies his age. How can anyone not be a fan of that?

I know, a lot of it is racial and a lot of it is just plain old, blind hating.

Canelo is the best active LMW on the planet. He has balls too and showed more grit than Lara, which is why I picked him to beat the supposedly superior "boxer", Lara showed he didn't have that dog in him against Angulo. Canelo will get in a scrap if he wants to and I respect that.

[Dr.Pepper]

I belive he has all the attributes to take over boxing for the next years after Mayweather, what doyou guys think?

No way.

He's only 5'7 and surrounded by as.s-whippings.

Who is he going to beat??

[Dr.Pepper]

Yes. I'm a fan of Canelo. He is already a PPV star and in the next few years he will become even bigger. The only man to ever beat him was the great Floyd Mayweather. I think Canelo is the next star after Floyd. Definitely the real deal.

His only PPV did 350K

Skill wise....no way.

[icha]

His only PPV did 350K

Skill wise....no way.

same as pacs last ppv, and more then cotto-maravilla...

[Carpe Diem]

LOL did you see the Mayweather fight???

Styles make fights. If a fighter doesn't have an aggressive mauling/wrestling style, he isn't going to look good against, Floyd. Guys like Hatton, Castillo, Maidana, and even Oscar had their success because they smothered Floyd's offense both on the outside and on the inside. If you give Floyd space to operate, he'll just pick you apart. Those guys made sure not to, but they all came up short.

Canelo fought the right way against Floyd. He tried to be defensive and counter-punch Floyd, but he simply couldn't cut the ring off and set up his offense.

[Da Boxer]

I like everything about him, except for the 155 catchweights, mothe****er needs to do something about that. That being said most of the guys he has fought are as big or bigger than him, so I don't think it is as big a deal as most people make of it.

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Really? Really?????

HahahahahahahananaanNn.....

[New England]

Has Canelo clearly and decisively beaten a world class opponent?

this will probably turn into some childish discusssion of semantics. "world class," "decisively," etc.


austin trout was coming off of a win over miguel cotto when he lost to alvarez. you don't need to win "clearly" to win a fight. you need two of the three judges to give you the nod. anybody who thought that fight was a robbery was some kind of fanboy, usually of manny pacquiao.


additionally, lara was considered a worthy opponent. these are all world class fighters. if you travel the world to box top contenders [lara defected and was imported from cuba] you're a world class fighter.

again, it was only idiots who have no concept of what a body shot looks like or does to a pure boxer's legs, who called that fight a robbery.



the important aspect of the post was a reference to a great, great rap album, liquid swords.

why is the sky blue?
why is water wet?
why did judas grab the romans while jesus slept?

[New England]

I respect the dude, but I wish people would stop trying to crown him despite not having a "crowning performance." When has he truly looked good against elite opposition? I thought Trout outpointed him; Mayweather schooled him; and you can make a case that Lara won although I believed Canelo deserved the nod because of his body work.

Let's see him have a CONVINCING win over an elite opponent. He doesn't have one yet, stop acting like it.

when was floyd mayweather's last win over an elite opponent?

pacquiao's?

klitschko's?

marquez'?


by your tone, it seems like these wins are common. they aren't.

most fighters, historically or otherwise, string together wins over contenders, not other elite fighters. matches between truly prime, great fighters are rare.


alvarez' wins over trout and lara make him stand out, particularly when you consider that these wins occurred well before his 25th birthday.

my issue with alvarez currently is the weight. alvarez is a middleweight. they're trying to stall out that stage of his career to attempt to lure manny, cotto, into a fight.