Who is the greatest fighter since Muhammed Ali?

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  • bojangles1987
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    #421
    Originally posted by Pac=Duran
    Pac will be above Ray Leonard if he wins tonight. People will be saying he's the greatest of all time, or minimum top 5 if he KO's Floyd.
    No, they won't. Well, no one worth listening to.

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    • Pac=Duran
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      #422
      Originally posted by bojangles1987
      No, they won't. Well, no one worth listening to.
      Ray Leonard is undoubtedly a great great fighter, but he is very near to Pac in terms of greatness. You have to count his later career when it's all said and done.

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        #423
        Originally posted by Pac=Duran
        Ray Leonard is undoubtedly a great great fighter, but he is very near to Pac in terms of greatness. You have to count his later career when it's all said and done.
        If that's so then you've got to count Pacquiao's early career and his losses to weak opposition.

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          #424
          Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
          If that's so then you've got to count Pacquiao's early career and his losses to weak opposition.
          Yes indeed, but he's more than made up for that wouldn't you say? lol

          JMM and B-Hop also have early losses but it doesn't count much against them because they did so well later on.

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            #425
            Originally posted by Pac=Duran
            Yes indeed, but he's more than made up for that wouldn't you say? lol

            JMM and B-Hop also have early losses but it doesn't count much against them because they did so well later on.
            B-Hops losses now don't mean much either. Ali's, Louis's, Duran's, basically all ATG's losses when they are shot to **** don't mean much just like Leonards don't.

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              #426
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
              B-Hops losses now don't mean much either. Ali's, Louis's, Duran's, basically all ATG's losses when they are shot to **** don't mean much just like Leonards don't.
              Enough of this circle jerk. The fight is in no time at all.

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              • Elroy1
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                #427
                Wladimir Klitschko is the greatest HW of all time TO DATE in absolute terms.

                The greatest "boxer" overall in my opinion so far is Manny Pacquaio.

                Of course this weekend might prove that Mayweather was really the real deal after all. However in some ways even if Mayweather WAS better than Manny, there will be obvious speculation and still in some ways Manny is always better than Floyd no matter what the outcome.

                A true peoples champion.

                In some ways that's indomitable!

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                  #428
                  Since you purposefully left off Charlie Zelenoff, I had to go with Leonard.

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                    #429
                    Roy Jones Jr. easily. He started his career as a 154 pound Jr. Middleweight. Eventually moved up to super middleweight and easily defeated a young, more experienced James Toney who at the time was the best pound for pound fighter in the world.

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                    • imperial1
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                      #430
                      Sugar Ray Leonard!
                      Last edited by imperial1; 05-01-2015, 09:28 AM.

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