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  • Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
    If he loses, would you agree that Pac is not the greatest since Ali?
    It depends if it was a robbery or not, but if he's legitimately beaten then yes he is not the greatest since Ali, probably like 3rd 4th or 5th. It's between Pac and Leonard for me now. Rising through the weight classes as he did, beating stellar opposition along the way, really counts for a lot.

    If he wins would you say Pac would over take SRL and Duran as the best since Ali?

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    • Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
      100% you haven't watched it lol. Duran came on strong in the end and knocked Barkley down and almost finished him. But Barkley won like 8 of the rounds I think.

      Pac is the greatest since Muhammed Ali and he will show it very soon. Everyone will come back to this thread and eat dat crow dough.
      are you really gonna start calling me a liar now because we disagree?

      try not to go full ****** on me please

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      • Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
        It depends if it was a robbery or not, but if he's legitimately beaten then yes he is not the greatest since Ali, probably like 3rd 4th or 5th. It's between Pac and Leonard for me now. Rising through the weight classes as he did, beating stellar opposition along the way, really counts for a lot.

        If he wins would you say Pac would over take SRL and Duran as the best since Ali?
        Even if he wins he wouldn't. Likewise, if Floyd wins he wouldn't pass SRL or Duran either IMO.

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        • Originally posted by DeadLikeMe View Post
          Even if he wins he wouldn't. Likewise, if Floyd wins he wouldn't pass SRL or Duran either IMO.
          I totally disagree. Pacquiao's achievements are up there with Duran and Leonard, leaps and bounds ahead of Floyd's.

          I think even if Floyd beats Pac he won't have surpassed Pac's achievements.

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          • For skill, Roy Jones. For accomplishment, Sugar Ray & Pacquiao. For excitement, Mike Tyson. The complete package, Roberto Duran.

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            • Leonard then Duran for me.

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              • Ray Leonard with Duran close second.

                Resume wise the quality is there for everyone to see and in the ring he was as complete as you can get. Any question you have about a fighter was answered with a prime Leonard, his chin? iron, slightly slept on power at 147 and excellent killer instinct. Can fight 15 GRUELING rounds, obviously great speed and great heart to bounce back from adversity, nice punch variety.

                Leonard although not greater was more complete than Ali imo.

                Pacquiao beating Mayweather would definitely put him higher up historically but i'm not convinced it makes him greater than Leonard.
                Last edited by Caught Square; 04-30-2015, 06:47 PM.

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                • Originally posted by Caught Square View Post
                  Ray Leonard with Duran close second.

                  Resume wise the quality is there for everyone to see and in the ring he was as complete as you can get. Any question you have about a fighter was answered with a prime Leonard, his chin? iron, slightly slept on power at 147 and excellent killer instinct. Can fight 15 GRUELING rounds, obviously great speed and great heart to bounce back from adversity, nice punch variety.

                  Leonard although not greater was more complete than Ali imo.

                  Pacquiao beating Mayweather would definitely put him higher up historically but i'm not convinced it makes him greater than Leonard.
                  Pac will be above Ray Leonard if he wins tonight. People will be saying he's the greatest of all time, or minimum top 5 if he KO's Floyd.

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                  • Originally posted by Pac=Duran View Post
                    Pac will be above Ray Leonard if he wins tonight. People will be saying he's the greatest of all time, or minimum top 5 if he KO's Floyd.
                    Who's he fighting tonight?

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                    • Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                      Who's he fighting tonight?
                      Pacquiao is fighting some felon I think. Not 100% sure though.

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