Who is the greatest fighter since Muhammed Ali?

[Pac=Duran]

they are the same in lineal titles won without a catch weight. but i concur
lineal titles: floyd> manny

how about fighter of the year awards: manny>floyd

and divisional chmpioship: manny>floyd


fighter of the decade is also a good award

And fight against ATG's in their prime? Manny is 6-2-1 against Morales Barrera and Marquez, and nobody gave him a snow balls chance in hell vs Oscar and the Myweathers thought Cotto was way too much for Manny.

[mastertech1985]

Floyd swerved so many though. His resume could have been F@CKING UNREAL. If he fought Margarito, Martinez and Winky Wright when he should have.

The perception of him being coward s not far off.

If Mayweather is a coward, boxing is in a bad state


I agree I'd have liked to see him face Kostya Tszyu or Margarito but lets be real about it....he also beat better fighters than those 2



All pro fighters must be cowards because he has defeated more lineal champions, won more lineal titles fights than every active fighter today....including Manny, Jones, Hopkins, Klitschko or whoever may be your favorite fighter.


You don't make it into the all time, top 10 championship win list being a coward....dude only has 47 fights.....he only has 1 less lineal championship win than Muhammad Ali for goods sake and he has almost 20 less fights

[luisivich]

no matter how you twist it, here are the facts, not accolades but things you earn in the ring


Manny is 6-1-1 in lineal title fights....Mayweather 21-0....that's not even close


Mayweather beat 10 world champions....Manny beat 7


Both won 4 lineal titles

Mayweather has over triple the lineal title defenses of Manny


If Mayweather is a ducker, then every active fighter is considering he has fought more world class opposition than anyone today

boxrec:

pacquiao:

Lineal Titles

World Flyweight Title (December 1998 - September 1999)
World Featherweight Title (November 2003 - March 2005)
World Junior Lightweight Title (March 2008 - July 2008)
World Junior Welterweight Title (May 2009 - July 2010)

mayweather:
lineal titles:

World Junior Lightweight Title (1998-2002)
World Lightweight Title (2002-2004)
(2) World Welterweight Title (2006-2008, 2010-present)
World Junior Middleweight Title (2013-present)


"Mayweather has over triple the lineal title defenses of Manny"
think it over. you will be the only person who would think of that statistics.

"Mayweather beat 10 world champions....Manny beat 7"
incidentally bwaa doesnt think of that feat much because they had given the bwaa award to manny more times, when floyd is beating those 10 world champions.
and manny got fighter of the decade awards when floyd was beating those world champions.
and you is not > bwaa

[ea22]

If Mayweather is a coward, boxing is in a bad state


I agree I'd have liked to see him face Kostya Tszyu or Margarito but lets be real about it....he also beat better fighters than those 2



All pro fighters must be cowards because he has defeated more lineal champions, won more lineal titles fights than every active fighter today....including Manny, Jones, Hopkins, Klitschko or whoever may be your favorite fighter.


You don't make it into the all time, top 10 championship win list being a coward....dude only has 47 fights.....he only has 1 less lineal championship win than Muhammad Ali for goods sake and he has almost 20 less fights

Lol dude boxing is in a bad state, this year doesn't look too bad, but there is no denying that boxing has fallen low in late years.

[mastertech1985]

boxrec:

pacquiao:

Lineal Titles

World Flyweight Title (December 1998 - September 1999)
World Featherweight Title (November 2003 - March 2005)
World Junior Lightweight Title (March 2008 - July 2008)
World Junior Welterweight Title (May 2009 - July 2010)

mayweather:

The Ring Lineal Championship Titles:

Lineal Super Featherweight Champion (130 lbs)
The Ring Lightweight Champion (135 lbs)
The Ring Welterweight Champion (147 lbs)
(2) The Ring Welterweight Champion (147 lbs)
The Ring Jr. Middleweight Champion (154 lbs)

"Mayweather has over triple the lineal title defenses of Manny"
think it over. you will be the only person who would think of that statistics.

"Mayweather beat 10 world champions....Manny beat 7"
incidentally bwaa doesnt think of that feat much because they had given the bwaa award to manny more times, when floyd is beating those 10 world champions.
and manny got fighter of the decade awards when floyd was beating those world champions.
and you is not > bwaa

im done....obviously you wanna ignore the fact that Mayweather has fought waaaaay more lineal title fights.....cant argue facts my boy



an award given is just that....an award. Kobe has 1 mvp but 5 rings.....LeBron has 4 mvp but just 2 rings....winning fighter of the year doesn't mean you are the best fighter .CHAMPIONSHIPS>VOTED ACCOLADES....you can keep the accolades, i'll take the world championships and world title defenses

[luisivich]

im done....obviously you wanna ignore the fact that Mayweather has fought waaaaay more lineal title fights.....cant argue facts my boy



an award given is just that....an award. Kobe has 1 mvp but 5 rings.....LeBron has 4 mvp but just 2 rings....winning fighter of the year doesn't mean you are the best fighter .CHAMPIONSHIPS>VOTED ACCOLADES....you can keep the accolades, i'll take the world championships and world title defenses

"CHAMPIONSHIPS>VOTED ACCOLADES....you can keep the accolades, i'll take the world championships and world title defenses"

thank you for accepting that pacquiao got more accolades from bwaa.

and your "I'll" is not > bwaa. just saying.

[mastertech1985]

"CHAMPIONSHIPS>VOTED ACCOLADES....you can keep the accolades, i'll take the world championships and world title defenses"

thank you for accepting that pacquiao got more accolades from bwaa.

its true he does have more accolades than Floyd, Floyd isn't beloved by the world like manny nor was Kobe as loved as Lebron but he also won more


Thank you for accepting that Mayweather has 3 times the lineal title fight wins as well.

[TAZ-G]

Ray Leonard

[SergioMartinez]

In this order to "take the throne" per say.

Ray Leonard
Roberto Duran
Bernard Hopkins
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Roy Jones
Manny Pacquiao

[Pac=Duran]

Ray Leonard

overrated lol, every possible advantage in his big fights.