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  • The Big Dunn
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    #91
    Originally posted by sapaw
    the problem is, Marquez wiling to engage/risk but floyd don't. Like now, its been 5 years and floyd still hesitant to fight Pac.
    Floyd doesn't have to take risks if the other fighter can't make him. JMM didn't walk away from a fight when Manny said no to testing, he just beat his a$$. Manny. as we all know but his fans like you will never admit, walked away from the fight over testing.

    The thread topic is Manny thinks fight will happen. IMO this means as of now he isn't going to walk away again. That's a good thing.

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      #92
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Floyd doesn't have to take risks if the other fighter can't make him. JMM didn't walk away from a fight when Manny said no to testing, he just beat his a$$. Manny. as we all know but his fans like you will never admit, walked away from the fight over testing.

      The thread topic is Manny thinks fight will happen. IMO this means as of now he isn't going to walk away again. That's a good thing.
      Take the test and we have a fight! so why fight not happening? Pac your next, oops! did not say that! i hope Floyd paid you so well coz you are worst than flomos! lol

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        #93
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        It's relevant only from a style perspective. JMM found ways to score effectively against Manny. Floyd is bigger, better balance, stronger, faster, smarter, quicker, longer and better in JMM in almost every way. I think it was Lou Dibella a few years ago who referenced same as being the reason Manny/Bob didn't want fight.

        Granted Floyd looked very slow in the last Maidana fight and IMO lost quite a few of the "middle of the ring" exchanges with Maidana in the 1st fight so at least for me its going to be closer than I had thought all the other times the fight looked close.

        Its not a triangle theory, its a comparison of "similar style opposition.
        he's not stronger than hulquez, and he's not smarter than marquez, luckily in boxing physical traits are a biggy, you can get away with alot when you're a speed demon

        mayweather fights nothing like marquez, he doesn't know how to fight on the backpeddle aswell as marquez, he is either a fairly stationary target just swiping ineffectual left hooks(which is one of the reasons he has hand problems) and right hand lead arm punches at you or he's full on running and threatening to gas, and if he doesn't run then he's on the ropes, the guy is nowhere near the mover marquez is, he has speed and at moments can skaddle alot faster, yes, those traits

        his only right hook is another wide swiping punch with his chin high up in the air, it's not working vs pacquiao, and besides his fear of punching with the opponent without nearly shtting himself(which is why you see him on the defensive so often), he seems to also have a deadly fear of turning on pressuring opponents so is seen on the ropes alot, he fights tall, rarely low, and when he does he doesn't know how to, gives too much of his back to the opponent, the manuever of a defensive minded boxer, not thinking enough offense, not to mention when he ducks a punch he does it like bradley and pacquiao will probabley pin-point his head and hit him while turning the sht outta him, marquez never ducks like that, he's always watching and fienting at pacquiao, and the obvious marquez is constantly fighting where mayweather will shell up when faced with pressure

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          #94
          Originally posted by SplitSecond
          he's not stronger than hulquez, and he's not smarter than marquez, luckily in boxing physical traits are a biggy, you can get away with alot when you're a speed demon

          mayweather fights nothing like marquez, he doesn't know how to fight on the backpeddle aswell as marquez, he is either a fairly stationary target just swiping ineffectual left hooks(which is one of the reasons he has hand problems) and right hand lead arm punches at you or he's full on running and threatening to gas, and if he doesn't run then he's on the ropes, the guy is nowhere near the mover marquez is, he has speed and at moments can skaddle alot faster, yes, those traits

          his only right hook is another wide swiping punch with his chin high up in the air, it's not working vs pacquiao, and besides his fear of punching with the opponent without nearly shtting himself(which is why you see him on the defensive so often), he seems to also have a deadly fear of turning on pressuring opponents so is seen on the ropes alot, he fights tall, rarely low, and when he does he doesn't know how to, gives too much of his back to the opponent, the manuever of a defensive minded boxer, not thinking enough offense, not to mention when he ducks a punch he does it like bradley and pacquiao will probabley pin-point his head and hit him while turning the sht outta him, marquez never ducks like that, he's always watching and fienting at pacquiao, and the obvious marquez is constantly fighting where mayweather will shell up when faced with pressure
          The key is Floyd's reach. he has unusually long arms like Iverson or scottie pippen. It enables him to fight at distance that other fighters his size simply can't.you make interesting points and are entitled to your opinion. Dibella sais something along the same things I am pointing out.

          I think there is a reason Floyd is a 3-1 favorite. Again, you have good points but it seems like most of your assessment, while accurate in many spots, is taken from points in the fight when Floyd has essentially "wrapped the fight up". It's like assessing a team solely on what they do in the 4th quarter of a game they are winning.

          I definitely think Manny will be able to make Floyd work. But be clear-as the JMM fight showed Manny still drops his hands and leaves openings when pressing for the KO. Most of his opponents above 130 have not had the skills to take advantage of that.

          Floyd has the skills and speed to do so.

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            #95
            Originally posted by sapaw
            Take the test and we have a fight! so why fight not happening? Pac your next, oops! did not say that! i hope Floyd paid you so well coz you are worst than flomos! lol
            Yeah but now Floyd has actually approached Manny and both are trying to make the fight which Manny and Koncz agrees with. What kind of dumb questions is "Why fight not happening?" You're bashing Mayweather for trying to make the fight. All of you girls getting in your feelings because everyone agrees that it's Arum and not Floyd got you girls like this.....
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              #96
              Originally posted by GRUSTLER
              Yeah but now Floyd has actually approached Manny and both are trying to make the fight which Manny and Koncz agrees with. What kind of dumb questions is "Why fight not happening?" You're bashing Mayweather for trying to make the fight. All of you girls getting in your feelings because everyone agrees that it's Arum and not Floyd got you girls like this.....
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              yup, he approached Pac and do secret meeting but.... why the hell there's hidden camera and later on show tiny clip trying to show he is willing to fight. where's the rest of the 3 hours hidden video?

              So what's really the problem, testing or Arum? make up you mind!

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                #97
                Originally posted by sapaw
                Take the test and we have a fight! so why fight not happening? Pac your next, oops! did not say that! i hope Floyd paid you so well coz you are worst than flomos! lol
                take the test and we have a fight was ages ago. Floyd lied then. we all know he did. Manny said he was ok with testing, then didn't test for any fight and then refused to test for JMM 4th fight. he lied. All we've read is the testing issues have been addressed this time.

                its' 2015 now, what does stuff from 2009-2012 have to do with now?

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by sapaw
                  yup, he approached Pac and do secret meeting but.... why the hell there's hidden camera and later on show tiny clip trying to show he is willing to fight. where's the rest of the 3 hours hidden video?

                  So what's really the problem, testing or Arum? make up you mind!
                  Idiot.... apparently testing is no longer an issue. Where you been? You're saying where is the rest if the video but just two days ago you girls were crying about why he filmed 10 secs but now crying about where is the rest if the video?

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                    take the test and we have a fight was ages ago. Floyd lied then. we all know he did. Manny said he was ok with testing, then didn't test for any fight and then refused to test for JMM 4th fight. he lied. All we've read is the testing issues have been addressed this time.

                    its' 2015 now, what does stuff from 2009-2012 have to do with now?
                    ow, so earlier, you said Pac walk away form the test.. and nowyou admitted that floyd lied about, its over and way past! lol! you are on something! need help! hahaha

                    Pac lied? that offer take the test is from floyd! how the hell he lied? ow, flomos logic: Marquez floored Pac its like Floyd floored Pac! hahaha! you really on something! hahaha

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      The key is Floyd's reach. he has unusually long arms like Iverson or scottie pippen. It enables him to fight at distance that other fighters his size simply can't.you make interesting points and are entitled to your opinion. Dibella sais something along the same things I am pointing out.

                      I think there is a reason Floyd is a 3-1 favorite. Again, you have good points but it seems like most of your assessment, while accurate in many spots, is taken from points in the fight when Floyd has essentially "wrapped the fight up". It's like assessing a team solely on what they do in the 4th quarter of a game they are winning.

                      I definitely think Manny will be able to make Floyd work. But be clear-as the JMM fight showed Manny still drops his hands and leaves openings when pressing for the KO. Most of his opponents above 130 have not had the skills to take advantage of that.

                      Floyd has the skills and speed to do so.
                      Too Bad the FRAUDSTER dosen't Punch Hard enough to bother Pac....

                      Or the Balls to Fight Him in the first place!!!
                      3/1 Odds, if and when, I'll be Happy to reduce your Points, U name It!!!
                      Last edited by jbpanama; 02-10-2015, 02:26 PM.

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