Petition for Manny to wear punchers gloves when he fights Mayweather

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  • Stuntman Mike
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    #71
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Interesting point about many v morales. Do you take into consideration Morales was coming off a beating by Zahir Raheem and maybe that is why the punches in the 2nd fight had more effect?

    how would gloves take away any excitement? following your many/morales example, did the gloves make that fight any less exciting?

    there will only be glove talk from those guys who can't swallow a loss. Dude you've been here long enough to know the deal.

    Cortez was an issue for disgruntled fans, shane's age was an issue for hurt fans, the CW for Canelo, when Manny got KO'd JMM was suddenly a steroid cheat. Or the Matthysse guys who were utterly disgusting. Just don't be one of those guys, that's all I'm asking.

    Look, I get your point and we can agree to disagree. I see it as a pre fabricated excuse. you are not as bad as others so I shouldn't judge you based on them.

    It just sucks that NSB is inundated more with "JMM had a lucky punch or Cortez helped Floyd" rather than guys who just say "my dude lost."
    I take that into consideration yes... but I also take into consideration that not you or I can be the judge to whether thats a factor or not,we aren't in the ring taking the punches of the Reyes or padded Mx gloves or whatever brand they use... I don't want the gloves to be a factor,Heck I'd love to say "wow Floyd really did a number on Manny,much respect" but I can't and will not respect that if he does it while forcing him to wear gloves that will or will not be a factor.

    I'm not prefabricating excuses for this message board,I simply want a non controversial outcome of the fight so I personally can be at ease with whatever decision happens...because and not that I care much,but those punches Floyd took from Maidana looked a whole lot better than the punch Mosley hit Floyd with and the damage they dealt was minimal,that may or may not be a factor but my mind can never be at ease,I ask myself questions about whether the gloves made a difference


    I didn't really care about the Maidana fights tbh so I didn't think about it as much but the most anticipated fight of my generation is coming up and I want a clear cut non controversial winner so I don't have to ask myself so many "what ifs" after the fight

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      #72
      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
      Fight means nothing because Pacquiao can't win using identical equipment.
      I think we all know Floyd doesn't win his fights via glove damage so winning gloves or extra padded gloves aren't a big factor for him... they're probably better for him actually because he doesn't rely on power and they'll protect his hands and make his block absorb incoming punches better aswell,He wins with pin point accuracy and elusive skills

      Maidana and Manny on the other hand well.Damage is a big game changer for them in several of their fights... or have you not seen them fight?


      Sanctioned gloves should be allowed.... some people would swear they were coming in with plaster in their gloves

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #73
        Originally posted by Col. Hans Landa
        I take that into consideration yes... but I also take into consideration that not you or I can be the judge to whether thats a factor or not,we aren't in the ring taking the punches of the Reyes or padded Mx gloves or whatever brand they use... I don't want the gloves to be a factor,Heck I'd love to say "wow Floyd really did a number on Manny,much respect" but I can't and will not respect that if he does it while forcing him to wear gloves that will or will not be a factor.

        I'm not prefabricating excuses for this message board,I simply want a non controversial outcome of the fight so I personally can be at ease with whatever decision happens...because and not that I care much,but those punches Floyd took from Maidana looked a whole lot better than the punch Mosley hit Floyd with and the damage they dealt was minimal,that may or may not be a factor but my mind can never be at ease,I ask myself questions about whether the gloves made a difference


        I didn't really care about the Maidana fights tbh so I didn't think about it as much but the most anticipated fight of my generation is coming up and I want a clear cut non controversial winner so I don't have to ask myself so many "what ifs" after the fight
        I go it dude. I said I see it as a prefabricated excuse. I said its not fair to lump you in with those who are excuse makers. I got your point and we can agree to disagree.

        you never answered my question-do you give Floyd more credit for his victory over ODH since Floyd di so with gloves chosen for him by ODH?

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        • Ahmed_Ismail
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          #74
          This is what's wrong with boxing, how are there different types of gloves in the same sport? it's like having different types of balls in basketball (no pun intended). Wtf are puncher gloves anyway, why should someone wear gloves with no padding or with harder fillings to cause more damage on his opponent. I don't understand how this is accepted for some fighters, Yea knockouts are cool but the safety of the fighters is very important, we've seen people die in the ring and retired fighters who can't walk or talk straight. All the fighters should wear the same gloves, with the exception of using gloves with extra padding for fighters with fragile hands

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #75
            Originally posted by daggum
            possibly, we will never know. maybe one guy would have scored a ko, maybe their would have been more knockdowns or more instances of either guy getting hurt.

            those are all legit things to complain about. its not like complaining about socks. you seem to be against fair fights for some reason? why? Why does one boxer need to have everything his way? that's like playing monopoly but one player already starting with boardwalk and park place. kinda a big advantage don't you think? Why not start fair and square?

            if making your opponents fight with pillow gloves doesn't matter why does floyd do it? it obviously has some effect so why should he get full credit. You should be a fan of boxing and not a boxer. It's a b-tich move and you know it. Just fess up. You can still like floyd and not defend every single thing he does.
            geez daggum , you are making a very specious point. possibly is not definitively.

            I'm not against fair fights, I'm against posters complaining about decades old practices now that Floyd is exercising his right to use them. Your analogy fails to recognize the fact the larger draw has always made choices like this.

            why did other fighters do it? mostly for the mental advantage, same as Floyd. Once you with defend Floyd it shows you are one complaining solely because its Floyd. Besides, you are one of the excuse makers I am talking about.

            As I asked Hans Landa, does Floyd get more credit since ODH picked his gloves? You would never say yes.

            You never complained before, don't complain now. If Manny loses, he loses. Its not the gloves, Its because Floyd is better.

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            • AntonTheMeh
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              #76
              i think it's a bull**** move to not let manny wear the gloves that he wears. it's obviously a big enough of deal for floyd for it to be an issue, i don't see how that's a fair at all.

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                #77
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                how would gloves take away any excitement? following your many/morales example, did the gloves make that fight any less exciting
                Forgot to answer this,well morales gets hit a lot easier than Floyd and also matched manny high volume for high volume,it was one of best fights I've seen,

                Manny Floyd will not be as exciting because of floyds style and if gloves are going to take away a broken nose or knockdown or two away then I'm against it because that would make it exciting

                Manny will land few and far between but when he does I'd like to see how Floyd handles his power and what not instead of having a subconscious thought in my head saying "I think manny would have put him on queen Street had Floyd not forced those pillows on him"

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                  #78
                  THis is why we should all be hoping the fight doesn't happen. It will just be meaningless and frustrating.

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                  • sapaw
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail
                    This is what's wrong with boxing, how are there different types of gloves in the same sport? it's like having different types of balls in basketball (no pun intended). Wtf are puncher gloves anyway, why should someone wear gloves with no padding or with harder fillings to cause more damage on his opponent. I don't understand how this is accepted for some fighters, Yea knockouts are cool but the safety of the fighters is very important, we've seen people die in the ring and retired fighters who can't walk or talk straight. All the fighters should wear the same gloves, with the exception of using gloves with extra padding for fighters with fragile hands
                    then lets these guys wear head gear! its safer!

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Col. Hans Landa
                      Forgot to answer this,well morales gets hit a lot easier than Floyd and also matched manny high volume for high volume,it was one of best fights I've seen,

                      Manny Floyd will not be as exciting because of floyds style and if gloves are going to take away a broken nose or knockdown or two away then I'm against it because that would make it exciting

                      Manny will land few and far between but when he does I'd like to see how Floyd handles his power and what not instead of having a subconscious thought in my head saying "I think manny would have put him on queen Street had Floyd not forced those pillows on him"
                      that's my point, the gloves didn't change the fight for you. you also haven't answered my Floyd/ODH question, which I am really interested in.

                      Look, I can't fault you for what you may think. I can respect your opinion even though I disagree with it. It's clear you are not one of the posters who are desperate to create some kind of excuse in advance.

                      As I understand the gloves issue has been resolved and both can wear what they want. But nothing is signed so it can't be considered fact.

                      I just hope the fight happens May 2nd and await the announcement.

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