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  • #11
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
    Yeah seems like it. I can understand signing with roc but with haymon having so much power in the sport right now and the problems Jay had with haymon, things are not looking good for ward at the moment.

    Losing quality staff hurts the company too.
    I just think he's asking for too much money for tune ups, if he's asking for two million, he's nuts and so is roc nation for not keeping his valuation in line when they signed him. Both parties seem oblivious to what is realistic in boxing.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
      Yeah seems like it. I can understand signing with roc but with haymon having so much power in the sport right now and the problems Jay had with haymon, things are not looking good for ward at the moment.

      Losing quality staff hurts the company too.
      Maybe he should lower his price with HBO to have his tune-up or see if somebody else will pay it somewhere else.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
        Maybe he should lower his price with HBO to have his tune-up or see if somebody else will pay it somewhere else.
        Article says Showtime had no interest. I assume nbc is not an option. Fox or espn?

        Any idea who hbo wants him to return against?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          Article says Showtime had no interest. I assume nbc is not an option. Fox or espn?

          Any idea who hbo wants him to return against?
          Last year there was the rumor of Kessler/Ward rematch with 7 figures for both parties.... Kessler was even gearing up to announce it... but we all know what last year was.

          Ward freed up, they should try to pursue that again....in Denmark.

          No idea who HBO wants, but most likely somebody they don't have to pay almost 2 million for in a tune-up

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
            Last year there was the rumor of Kessler/Ward rematch with 7 figures for both parties.... Kessler was even gearing up to announce it... but we all know what last year was.

            Ward freed up, they should try to pursue that again....in Denmark.

            No idea who HBO wants, but most likely somebody they don't have to pay almost 2 million for in a tune-up
            Didn't Kessler just retire last week?

            Ward is gonna return in Oakland or somewhere in California.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              Didn't Kessler just retire last week?
              Yea, but he mainly said it's because he couldn't secure a Ward/Froch rematch.

              Froch is most likely out... Ward can't get a fight with HBO or Show... so might as well try to open up that avenue again and see if they'll still pay him... or if HBO would like that

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              • #17
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                Article says Showtime had no interest. I assume nbc is not an option. Fox or espn?

                Any idea who hbo wants him to return against?
                Haymon has the NBC dates and some fox dates. They're not going to give any to Jay Z for crappy fights, even for good ones, they almost surely don't have any dates to give away.

                Haymon is out of the picture, but JayZ could get Ward a big fight with other 168 pounders or LHWs. Ward is obviously the lynchpin for this all, but like under Goosen, Ward simply refused to fight after awhile, unless it was a big opponent.

                Now Ward is refusing to fight unless it is a bum. Lol. Goosen is indeed chuckling somewhere up there. JayZ paid all this money for Ward and its a deadend. Now that Ward is getting paid, I would've thought he would face the dangerous fighters.

                People want to see Ward fight GGG, Kovalev, or perhaps someone like Degale, or Groves. No one is going to watch a tuneup, and the longer he is out the more we have forgotten.

                Boxing has the attention span of a fly, and Ward is becoming less and less important all the time.

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                • #18
                  ward gon end up fighting on fox sports 1

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
                    Yea, but he mainly said it's because he couldn't secure a Ward/Froch rematch.

                    Froch is most likely out... Ward can't get a fight with HBO or Show... so might as well try to open up that avenue again and see if they'll still pay him... or if HBO would like that
                    Originally posted by Heavyfist View Post
                    Haymon has the NBC dates and some fox dates. They're not going to give any to Jay Z for crappy fights, even for good ones, they almost surely don't have any dates to give away.

                    Haymon is out of the picture, but JayZ could get Ward a big fight with other 168 pounders or LHWs. Ward is obviously the lynchpin for this all, but like under Goosen, Ward simply refused to fight after awhile, unless it was a big opponent.

                    Now Ward is refusing to fight unless it is a bum. Lol. Goosen is indeed chuckling somewhere up there. JayZ paid all this money for Ward and its a deadend. Now that Ward is getting paid, I would've thought he would face the dangerous fighters.

                    People want to see Ward fight GGG, Kovalev, or perhaps someone like Degale, or Groves. No one is going to watch a tuneup, and the longer he is out the more we have forgotten.

                    Boxing has the attention span of a fly, and Ward is becoming less and less important all the time.
                    Either of you think Roc get him in a fight with degale for the belt froch just dropped? Hob should be ok with that.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by MrRolltide91 View Post
                      ward gon end up fighting on fox sports 1
                      Imagine if he ends up headlining FNF in a few months?

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