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  • Arshad221
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    #321
    Originally posted by PAC-BOY
    Do you understand that once you make it clear that YOU dont care if a grown Man (Jack Johnson) ***ed kids... Anything you say from that point on is more shlt that it has already been! Why dont you just log out and go find a kiddy **** site. Any mother***er who condones child ******ing is a sick ***!
    He said he didn't care he didn't say he approved it.

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    • davidandrei
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      #322
      Originally posted by Reloaded
      Thats not the beauty of sport , thats the beauty of hype .

      If the difference between gloves made the difference between winning and losing everybody would be made to wear the same glove , the difference in using them is more about what feels good to the fighter than anything else .

      You are arguing fan hype , you will never convince pro runners that Usan Bolt wins because of his shoe , but I bet you it would not be hard to convince haters that its his shoes , if you talk to any fighters the difference in gloves you get hit with is of no importance , the hand in them is what matters .

      Dictating the gloves worn is more mind games than anything else , and its the A sides right if you follow history .
      to be fair though, boxing is a sport where it can end in one hit. there only way i can picture in running where the shoe would matter if at the jump off the shoe breaks. i agree over 12rounds skills will win, not the gloves. and ive already said that if gloves are already agreed upon, then its settled. for a puncher who has strong bones and doesnt need protection, would his punch have stronger impact on his opponent with a horse hair gloves vs orthopedic? even if its just a tiny minuscule little bit, and over a course of 1 million punches would not matter, is there not a chance that one hit could be the difference between a guy getting up and being out cold?
      beauty is also in the eye of the beholder. like in basketball, some team can win playing as a team, distributing the ball, going for the open man but i would probably watch the team doing crazy highlights, maybe even one guy carrying the team.

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      • Reloaded
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        #323
        Originally posted by PAC-BOY
        Do you understand that once you make it clear that YOU dont care if a grown Man (Jack Johnson) ***ed kids... Anything you say from that point on is more shlt that it has already been! Why dont you just log out and go find a kiddy **** site. Any mother***er who condones child ******ing is a sick ***!
        Lots of things in this world dont bother me because there is nothing I could do to change it , do you have any idea how many people have been wrongly convicted , what proof do you have of exactly what happened , too judge .

        Your an extremist kid , standing on a white horse telling everybody how bad they are when you dont know sht about any off it , hanging on a single word so you can bypass whats actually said too write your extreme spin on it ,,,,,, sheeeeeeeeesh go get a life kid and experience it .

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        • ADP02
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          #324
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          Thats not the beauty of sport , thats the beauty of hype .

          If the difference between gloves made the difference between winning and losing everybody would be made to wear the same glove , the difference in using them is more about what feels good to the fighter than anything else .

          You are arguing fan hype , you will never convince pro runners that Usan Bolt wins because of his shoe , but I bet you it would not be hard to convince haters that its his shoes , if you talk to any fighters the difference in gloves you get hit with is of no importance , the hand in them is what matters .

          Dictating the gloves worn is more mind games than anything else , and its the A sides right if you follow history .
          You are just saying all that because its your hero Floyd that has been doing it. If it was the other way around, you would have an issue just like you had an issue about the Cotto CW of 2lbs which funny enough, you never complained when Floyd asked Canelo for a 2lbs CW.

          If there is no difference, then why would Floyd do what he did the day before the fight? Floyd was crying and threatened to call the fight off.

          No difference? Here is Floyd scared sh$t on Maidana wearing them gloves:
          "No wonder why he's hitting mother***ers and they falling everywhere" - Floyd

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          • raymosr
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            #325
            Styles makes fight. Maidana for one is much bigger than Pacquaio. 2 Pacquiao isn't a dirty fighter like Maidana so I doubt you so see nut shots and rabbit shot considering pac doesn't even throw the over hand shot. 3 as much as you say Mayweather has trouble with southpaw's, you have to put that in context. .. he hasn't lost many rounds to southpaw's, not mention he hasn't even come close to losing to one. But on the other side, Manny does have trouble with counter puncher's and has lost big time to one. But at the end of the day we will never know until they fight.

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            • raymosr
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              #326
              Originally posted by ADP02
              You are just saying all that because its your hero Floyd that has been doing it. If it was the other way around, you would have an issue just like you had an issue about the Cotto CW of 2lbs which funny enough, you never complained when Floyd asked Canelo for a 2lbs CW.

              If there is no difference, then why would Floyd do what he did the day before the fight? Floyd was crying and threatened to call the fight off.

              No difference? Here is Floyd scared sh$t on Maidana wearing them gloves:
              "No wonder why he's hitting mother***ers and they falling everywhere" - Floyd
              Styles makes fight. Maidana for one is much bigger than Pacquaio. 2 Pacquiao isn't a dirty fighter like Maidana so I doubt you so see nut shots and rabbit shot considering pac doesn't even throw the over hand shot. 3 as much as you say Mayweather has trouble with southpaw's, you have to put that in context. .. he hasn't lost many rounds to southpaw's, not mention he hasn't even come close to losing to one. But on the other side, Manny does have trouble with counter puncher's and has lost big time to one. But at the end of the day we will never know until they fight.

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              • hectari
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                #327
                How can you keep blaming Arum when the only guy who can make the fight happen or not is the man in full control that is FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.

                He is the man with the power to make the fight, Arum is no longer an issue, stop blaming him.

                below is an update.
                Arum said he has been working directly with Les Moonves, chief executive CBS Corporation, Showtime’s parent company.

                “It’s only going to get settled at Moonves’ level,” said Arum, “because otherwise, it will just break up and everybody will just walk away and everybody will blame everybody and all of that s–t. That’s how I see it now.”

                Arum also said, “Moonves can handle it” during an interview with ESPN.com, adding, “The question is whether the Mayweather side will listen to him. If they’re sincere about trying to make the fight, it shouldn’t be an issue. Or are they playing a game? I don’t know. I go back and forth. I thought they were always playing a game, that Floyd didn’t want the fight.”
                Last edited by hectari; 02-05-2015, 12:36 AM.

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                • AgainstTheRopes
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                  #328
                  Originally posted by hectari
                  How can you keep blaming Arum when the only guy who can make the fight happen or not is the man in full control that is FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR.

                  He is the man with the power to make the fight, Arum is no longer an issue, stop blaming him.

                  below is an update.
                  Arum said he has been working directly with Les Moonves, chief executive CBS Corporation, Showtime’s parent company.

                  “It’s only going to get settled at Moonves’ level,” said Arum, “because otherwise, it will just break up and everybody will just walk away and everybody will blame everybody and all of that s–t. That’s how I see it now.”

                  Arum also said, “Moonves can handle it” during an interview with ESPN.com, adding, “The question is whether the Mayweather side will listen to him. If they’re sincere about trying to make the fight, it shouldn’t be an issue. Or are they playing a game? I don’t know. I go back and forth. I thought they were always playing a game, that Floyd didn’t want the fight.”
                  Youre going to believe whatever Arum says? Im not saying he's lying but I wouldnt be surprised if he is. And no that doesn't mean I believe whatever Mayweather says as well- I question him just as much if not more

                  Notice that once Pacquiao and Koncz had a chance to speak directly with Mayweather and have their own line of communication with him, they've kept relatively quiet and haven't been attacking Mayweather as they had before?

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                  • ADP02
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                    #329
                    Originally posted by raymosr
                    Styles makes fight. Maidana for one is much bigger than Pacquaio. 2 Pacquiao isn't a dirty fighter like Maidana so I doubt you so see nut shots and rabbit shot considering pac doesn't even throw the over hand shot. 3 as much as you say Mayweather has trouble with southpaw's, you have to put that in context. .. he hasn't lost many rounds to southpaw's, not mention he hasn't even come close to losing to one. But on the other side, Manny does have trouble with counter puncher's and has lost big time to one. But at the end of the day we will never know until they fight.
                    Reloaded was talking about the gloves.

                    As for what you said, Floyd has shown to be vulnerable and open against Southpaws. Manny is much better than the other southpaws that Floyd faced. Floyd best defensive stance is using his shoulder roll. Not that good against southpaws so Floyd will need to go to another stance (high guard) which he is not as good and will have a harder time countering in comparison.

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                    • Reloaded
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                      #330
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      Reloaded was talking about the gloves.

                      As for what you said, Floyd has shown to be vulnerable and open against Southpaws. Manny is much better than the other southpaws that Floyd faced. Floyd best defensive stance is using his shoulder roll. Not that good against southpaws so Floyd will need to go to another stance (high guard) which he is not as good and will have a harder time countering in comparison.
                      Manny will get his ass handed to him , you believe too much hype because you dont know any better lol .

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