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  • HanzGruber
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    #21
    Originally posted by Eastcoast
    No. Rios got $925k for Chavez. Tim Bradley got $2mill. The same Tim Bradley who had 3 ppvs fights with Pacquiao & Marquez.
    Whoops. But my point still stands. Is Bradley any more valuable to HBO then ward?

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    • gmc_rfc_06
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      #22
      Can't keep giving fighters millions to fight bums.

      Doesn't matter if it's Ward, Berto, Cruz, Quillin or whoever....fight some legit opposition and earn those millions.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Eastcoast
        Yesterday I read that Roc Nations is now only looking at Ward fighting 2x this year instead of three. Today Kim tweets on Ward 'butting' with HBO over his tune-up.







        This guy might be Peter Quillin ******. How does he not understand that with his high minimum, he can't just expect to take blow-off fights? He points out it's a double standard with Golovkin, but he never mentions Golovkin gets less than half of what he gets for about the same ratings.

        If he was smart, he'd let Roc Nation put him on Fox or ESPN for a couple fights and rebuild his brand. Yeah he doesn't get much money for it, but advertising costs money!
        It's not really a double standard, because people don't find Ward exciting, and they do find GGG exciting, so of course the required opposition is completely different. If they were both exciting, then it would be a double standard.

        Ward has to fight someone dangerous. It's like Floyd Manny. Manny can fight anyone and it'll be entertaining. But unless Floyd fights the right opponent, people are not interested.

        I do hope HBO refuses an easy tune up. No one wants to see that.

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        • daggum
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          #24
          ok so don't fight. problem solved. the less ward fights the better. more money for other people who don't hold although they just gave wlad a contract so maybe they are going for the holding.

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          • Eastcoast
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            #25
            Originally posted by HanzGruber
            Whoops. But my point still stands. Is Bradley any more valuable to HBO then ward?
            Bradley is totally over-valued due to the Pacquiao upset, considering he can't sell out a 5,000 seat venue. But to Tim's credit, he did give us the Provodnikov performance. I also think they overpaid Tim in order to keep him from going to Haymon, market values...

            I suspect Bradley's recent 'draw' vs Chavez, may have had something to do with a possible stipulation in his contract regarding his guarantee. If you remember, Bradley and his wife negotiated the contract directly with TR and Cameron Dunkin was not involved...

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            • North Star
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              #26
              They probably want to go ahead and see him tune up with Ramirez, but it seems Ward wants too much for it. It's not like Ramirez would give him a hard fight or anything.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Beercules
                What does he want? 2 million to fight a couple more Edwin Rodriguez's?
                Exactly. I like Ward but cmon man. You got the skills. What the hell you need a tune up for. Go get paid and fight somebody good.

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                • Humean
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                  #28
                  Ward probably should have a tune up but to expect HBO to show it and pay him big money is ridiculous. Ward and his thug manager really are at the top of the P4P unreasonable list.

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                  • Xi_
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                    #29
                    ward deserves to be paid.....

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                    • hectari
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Eastcoast
                      Yesterday I read that Roc Nations is now only looking at Ward fighting 2x this year instead of three. Today Kim tweets on Ward 'butting' with HBO over his tune-up.







                      This guy might be Peter Quillin ******. How does he not understand that with his high minimum, he can't just expect to take blow-off fights? He points out it's a double standard with Golovkin, but he never mentions Golovkin gets less than half of what he gets for about the same ratings.

                      If he was smart, he'd let Roc Nation put him on Fox or ESPN for a couple fights and rebuild his brand. Yeah he doesn't get much money for it, but advertising costs money!
                      This is why I respect Bernard Hopkins he knows his role and his marketing value, he knows he isn't a super star on the level of an Oscar, Canelo, Pac or Floyd or Cotto, and he doesnt price himself out.

                      Ward isn't even as famous as B hop, yet he wants to get an expensive tune up bout. Ward already signed a what 40 million dollar contract with Roc nation and now he wants to squeeze more cash from hbo.

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