Mccallum on the legends hagler hearns leonard duran all ducked me

[joseph5620]

McCallum did more than Mugabi who knocked out a bunch of fringe contenders for his title shot with Hagler

Before the by the end of 1987 McCallum had defended his title 6 times and kayoed hall of famer Julian Jackson who was a touted puncher and undefeated, former titleholders Milton McCrory, David Braxton, Donald Curry, and title challender Luigi Minchillo

McCrory, Braxton meant nothing. The Curry fight happened after the Leonard fight. Minchillo didnt put him in position for a fight with Hagler.


Jackson was not a hall of fame fighter when McCallum beat him.


I clearly explained the Mugabi situation.

Hagler was at the very end of his career and fighting an unknown jr middleweight at that stage would have made no sense whatsoever.

[therealpugilist]

McCrory, Braxton meant nothing. The Curry fight happened after the Leonard fight. Minchillo didnt put him in position for a fight with Hagler.


Jackson was not a hall of fame fighter when McCallum beat him.


I clearly explained the Mugabi situation.

Hagler was at the very end of his career and fighting an unknown jr middleweight at that stage would have made no sense whatsoever.

No matter how you try to water it down before hagler retired, McCallum was more accomplished and just a flat out better fighter than mugabi and he got a shot having never won a title and just beating a few fringe contenders at 154

[MrRolltide91]

interesting

[joseph5620]

No matter how you try to water it down before hagler retired, McCallum was more accomplished and just a flat out better fighter than mugabi and he got a shot having never won a title and just beating a few fringe contenders at 154

It doesn't matter. He would not have brought in the same amount of money as Mugabi because he wasn't as known or hyped on television as Mugabi was. You're talking about Hagler's last two fights. How the hell was he ducking him if he never fought again after Leonard? At the time of the Leonard/Mugabi fights McCallum did absolutely nothing to demand a fight with Hagler. Financially or any other way.


Hagler had nothing to prove at that point and fighting Mccallum, a jr middleweight meant nothing for him.


There's no watering it down. Hagler never ducked anybody, had no reason to fight McCallum, and damn sure wasn't afraid of him or ducking him.

[El-blanco]

It doesn't matter. He would not have brought in the same amount of money as Mugabi because he wasn't as known or hyped on television as Mugabi was. You're talking about Hagler's last two fights. How the hell was he ducking him if he never fought again after Leonard? At the time of the Leonard/Mugabi fights McCallum did absolutely nothing to demand a fight with Hagler. Financially or anything else.


Hagler had nothing to prove at that point and fighting Mccallum at that point meant nothing for him.


There's no watering it down. Hagler never ducked anybody, had no reason to fight McCallum, and damn sure wasn't afraid of him or ducking him.

Don't bother with the guy, he's brain dead.

[Kagami Taiga]

They did avoid him, that's a fact. Only one I don't think there's a real argument for is Hagler. But the other 3 most definitely side stepped him and they were aware of his existence. Today people call that ducking. So it is what it is I guess.

[joseph5620]

They did avoid him, that's a fact. Only one I don't think there's a real argument for is Hagler. But the other 3 most definitely side stepped him and they were aware of his existence. Today people call that ducking. So it is what it is I guess.

I agree there's a strong argument for the other three. But not at all with Hagler.

There is no point in Hagler's career when that fight would make sense.

[Kagami Taiga]

I agree there's a strong argument for the other three. But not at all with Hagler.

There is no point in Hagler's career when that fight would make sense.

Yea for the other, it was clear they were aware of his existence and that he was a top young talent in the sport. Leonard advised one of his fighters, another rising talent, Donald Curry, to stay away from Mike. Mike subsequently snatched Currys body. Duran chose to get stripped instead of fighting him. And hearns had opportunity to fight him when both were considered the top 2 jmws buy he chose to move up to pursue Hagler instead. Hagler fought at 160, never moved and never made any illusions about moving elsewhere. It was no secret what fight he wanted. Quite different circumstance. Not saying the other 3 ducked him. I think they would have fought him for the right price, but Mc Cullum was probably the best fighter in the world nod names Hearns, Duran, Leonard, and Hagler and they showed zero interest oh n fighting him even though they all knew it

[TBear]

I like McCallum and even seen him fight once and sat down to dinner with him once(same table anyways). But, Hagler did not duck McCallum. By time Hagler was retired McCallum was still unknown. Check the time line.
McCallum may have wanted a payday but so did Buster Drayton and Duane Thomas, the other light middleweight champions that shared the title with McCallum.

Benitez would have loved to fight Hagler too and might of if he didn't get beat by Hamsho.

[therealpugilist]

I agree there's a strong argument for the other three. But not at all with Hagler.

There is no point in Hagler's career when that fight would make sense.

We can agree to disagree...the fight could've been made but I do agree that hagler has the best case for not fighting McCallum cuz the rest fought until the late 90s or later