Has George Groves been Cobra'd?

[IronDanHamza]

Since he was totally exhausted, out on his feet and saved by the referee. How could you possibly have missed that?

I'm well aware of how the fight unfolded.

Again, how can you possibly argue that that fight ruined Bute?

[soul_survivor]

He looked awful in his last fight. This guy was being touted as the next big thing at SMW.

Has Froch took his soul like he did to Bute? Or can Groves come back and become a world champion?

I still think he has the talent to beat Anthony Dirrell.

He may have been under prepared or just over looked a mediocre opponent. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, he looked world class against Froch in the first fight and that should never be forgotten and he wasn't too bad in the rematch.

Groves will get a world title in 2015, he just needs the right opponent.

[Box-Office]

Since he was totally exhausted, out on his feet and saved by the referee. How could you possibly have missed that?

His failure to get up on time was mostly due to exhaustion than him being actually hurt by the punch, so even if he was down for 10 it wasn't like Williams-Martinez type of situation where that one knockdown ruined him.

Not to mention Bute had Andrade the whole fight minus the knockdown. Even if Andrade did take his soul, Bute got it right back by knocking him out in the rematch.

There is a reason why Bute didn't pursue the rematch against Froch.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm well aware of how the fight unfolded.

Again, how can you possibly argue that that fight ruined Bute?

Bute pretty much dominated the rest of the fight, didn't he?

Then he knocked him out in the rematch and went on quite a long KO streak.

His confidence was so high that he took the fight in Nottigham

@ "Andrade took his soul"

[Box-Office]

I'm well aware of how the fight unfolded.

Again, how can you possibly argue that that fight ruined Bute?

What happened to Bute was something I had called quite a while ago. At least Felix Sturm with a similar career is a genuine force/talent and has recently resurrected some dignity by fighting Barker.

I wouldn't put weight in Macklin and Murray because they were green contenders when he fought them.

[IronDanHamza]

His failure to get up on time was mostly due to exhaustion than him being actually hurt by the punch, so even if he was down for 10 it wasn't like Williams-Martinez type of situation where that one knockdown ruined him.

Not to mention Bute had Andrade the whole fight minus the knockdown. Even if Andrade did take his soul, Bute got it right back by knocking him out in the rematch.

There is a reason why Bute didn't pursue the rematch against Froch.

How can he have taken his soul if he starched him in the rematch, starched Miranda, and went on a KO streak up to Glen Johnson who he shut out a lot easier than Froch managed?

That's what had him ranked #1 by The Ring Magazine

How can that be a ruined fighter?

After Froch, he's had two fights, one close decision against Grachev where he looked awful and a loss to Jean Pascal.

That is what is likely a ruined fighter.

[IronDanHamza]

Bute pretty much dominated the rest of the fight, didn't he?

Then he knocked him out in the rematch and went on quite a long KO streak.

His confidence was so high that he took the fight in Nottigham

@ "Andrade took his soul"

Literally makes no sense.

There is no case he was ruined by Andrade. None. Zero.

Let alone a "stronger" case.

[Box-Office]

How can he have taken his soul if he starched him in the rematch, starched Miranda, and went on a KO streak up to Glen Johnson who he shut out a lot easier than Froch managed?

That's what had him ranked #1 by The Ring Magazine

How can that be a ruined fighter?

After Froch, he's had two fights, one close decision against Grachev where he looked awful and a loss to Jean Pascal.

That is what is likely a ruined fighter.

Precisely.

[gmc_rfc_06]

Froch has ruined him, absolutely.

Groves has looked extremely loose in both fights after getting flattened. His punches are loose and don't have the same snap, his defence is very loose, he generally looks slower and his timing seems to have gone.

Cobra'd? It looks that way.

[removed]

I thought Groves made himself look very foolish during the build up to the second fight. He set himself up for a massive fall.

All that "Everything for a reason" bollocks. I don't think he had his mind on the actual fight, he was more obsessed with trying to get under Froch's skin.