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  • bluebeam
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    #41
    Originally posted by jjsmyth87
    Or Floyd could have fought pacquiao before he jumped ship to ShowTime, which was the biggest hurdle and still looks to be a big hurdle. Mayweather said may 2nd, hes obviously ok with bob arum being involved now so it really was just a lame duck excuse the whole time. Manny is loyal to top rank and they pay him very well and get him big fights. Bob arum treats his fighters very well. That's why pacquiao, cotto, Marquez and many of the sports biggest names continue to do business with top rank. Bob arum has HBO in his pocket, that's how he was able to pay Rios 850k and Alvarado 750k after they both had bad some bad fight. HBO pays better than ShowTime because HBO has more viewership. Tim Bradley gets paid very well by top rank too. 2 million to fight Diego Chaves, 4 million to fight Marquez, and 11 million in two fights with Manny. Top rank pays its fighters the best, Manny was smart for sticking with arum

    I get what you are saying. but regardless if manny fights Floyd or not. he should have still left top rank and did business as a free agent. it would save pacquiao 27% that arum takes from him every fight. and he could have just worked with top rank on a fight too fight basis. the same way cotto and marquez do now. he would still basically be a hbo/top rank fighter, just with an extra 27% in his pocket

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    • Boxing Goat
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      #42
      Originally posted by bluebeam
      I get what you are saying. but regardless if manny fights Floyd or not. he should have still left top rank and did business as a free agent. it would save pacquiao 27% that arum takes from him every fight. and he could have just worked with top rank on a fight too fight basis. the same way cotto and marquez do now. he would still basically be a hbo/top rank fighter, just with an extra 27% in his pocket
      Manny has a lot on his plate in case you didn't hear so having a manager and promoter is his best bet to keep up with the rest of his life. Floyd just gives out food to poor folks on Las Vegas corners while Pacquiao helps build a better future for his whole country. Huge, gaping difference.

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      • bluebeam
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        #43
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat
        Manny has a lot on his plate in case you didn't hear so having a manager and promoter is his best bet to keep up with the rest of his life. Floyd just gives out food to poor folks on Las Vegas corners while Pacquiao helps build a better future for his whole country. Huge, gaping difference.


        in the free agent scenario, arum would still promote his fights. he just wouldn't have too pay bob 27% of his purse.

        what does mayweather have too do with pacquiao being able too keep an extra 27% of his money by working with bob arum as a free agent as opposed too working with bob arum as a contracted fighter?

        wouldn't that 27% help build a better future for his country?

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          #44
          Originally posted by bluebeam
          I get what you are saying. but regardless if manny fights Floyd or not. he should have still left top rank and did business as a free agent. it would save pacquiao 27% that arum takes from him every fight. and he could have just worked with top rank on a fight too fight basis. the same way cotto and marquez do now. he would still basically be a hbo/top rank fighter, just with an extra 27% in his pocket
          I don't think it works that way, I highly doubt Manny has to pay 27% back to his promoter. He is guaranteed over 20 million every match and he pays kontz and Freddie roach and taxes and he keeps the rest. He gets that guaranteed amount, he got 23 million to fight algieri and didn't have to pay arum back anything, arum was the one who paid him and mp promotions.

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          • jbpanama
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            #45
            Originally posted by bluebeam
            in the free agent scenario, arum would still promote his fights. he just wouldn't have too pay bob 27% of his purse.

            what does mayweather have too do with pacquiao being able too keep an extra 27% of his money by working with bob arum as a free agent as opposed too working with bob arum as a contracted fighter?

            wouldn't that 27% help build a better future for his country?
            Has it Occured to U...DIMWIT.

            That Some Folks , by their Nature, aren't PIGS!!!
            Last edited by jbpanama; 01-27-2015, 05:00 PM.

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            • bluebeam
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              #46
              Originally posted by jjsmyth87
              I don't think it works that way, I highly doubt Manny has to pay 27% back to his promoter. He is guaranteed over 20 million every match and he pays kontz and Freddie roach and taxes and he keeps the rest. He gets that guaranteed amount, he got 23 million to fight algieri and didn't have to pay arum back anything, arum was the one who paid him and mp promotions.

              bro it's no secret that every fighter in top rank has too pay top rank 27% of their purse.

              its not just pacquiao.

              pacquaio makes 6 million dollars after he pays bob,koncz,and Freddie.

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              • SterlingStained
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                #47
                Originally posted by bluebeam
                bro it's no secret that every fighter in top rank has too pay top rank 27% of their purse.

                its not just pacquiao.

                pacquaio makes 6 million dollars after he pays bob,koncz,and Freddie.
                and you know this how?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Evol
                  Pretty much it's now or never! Put up or shut up! Why isn't the Floyd fans pushing Floyd?? The floyd fans was pushing manny to speak up, put more pressure, etc.
                  They don't know what they want. You are correct, at one point Manny needed to stop hiding behind Arum and call Mayweather out, be more aggressive and show that he really wanted the fight

                  Pacquiao does just that. Then It was Pacquiao needs to calm down, back off and keep quite, because he might be agitating Floyd and hurting his ego which could possibly terminate negotiations.

                  You can't make this stuff up. These people are a disease on this board.

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                  • bluebeam
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by jbpanama
                    Has it Occured to U...DIMWIT.

                    That Some Folks , by their Nature, aren't PIGS!!!

                    so are you a pig if you have the opportunity, too leave a job that pays 10 dollars a hour for a job that pays 18 dollars a hour too do the same job?

                    no its called smart business. dumbass.

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                    • Mayabang
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ironmt
                      They don't know what they want. You are correct, at one point Manny needed to stop hiding behind Arum and call Mayweather out, be more aggressive and show that he really wanted the fight

                      Pacquiao does just that. Then It was Pacquiao needs to calm down, back off and keep quite, because he might be agitating Floyd and hurting his ego which could possibly terminate negotiations.

                      You can't make this stuff up. These people are a disease on this board.
                      Exactly! Theyre freaking hilarious! And the most unbelievable part is that there are actual videos of these claims you just made lol.

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