Question, why do most people believe Cotto is done?

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  • Reloaded
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    #21
    You have got to understand Boxing Scene , you asked this question during an avalanche of rumors off a Floyd rematch , consequently your question is receiving posts from Pac ******s , that should paint you the picture .

    If Cotto was fighting Manny he would be a rejuvenated beast , the possibility of Floyd makes Cotto a washed up bum .

    Only in Boxing Scene will you see this level of ignorance and bias .

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      #22
      Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-

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      • Fantasiabruja
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        #23
        Originally posted by man-of-war
        again, you are being very vague, so i will make it easier for you to be specific... or harder for you to be vague.
        please just answer these questions.
        when has cotto beaten the man considered the bast in any division?
        what is easier to prove, martinez had a bad knee vs cotto, or margarito had loaded gloves vs cotto, and which one do you do you believe?
        how many welters can you name that became better fighters in their mid 30s than they were in their late 20s?

        i dont want explanations why you cant give a simple answer, just the answer without any buts.
        I didn't say anything about Cotto being a better fighter today my point was that he tried to go back to being a boxer and it did not work. Again he fought the guys available or put in front of him and 95% of the time came out on top while entertaining all boxing fans. Sergio's knee issues were known prior to the fight and yet 40% of people on here thought a damaged Sergio would still hand Miguel a loss. As far as Margarito's concern Cotto won the rematch and Margarito retired that erased the results of the first fight regardless of the controversy. I wasn't being vague about anything the question I asked was, why are people saying he is done yet at the same time he is expected to participate in the second most important fight today and some believe he will win that fight. Is it because people think Canelo is not all that good and therefore will struggle with Cotto making for an entertaining fight between a shot fighter and a not so good young fighter.

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          #24
          I don't think he's done, I (probably naively) buy into the rejuvenated Cotto under Roach. He is past prime though, and **** him for giving Floyd a backdoor out of the Pacquiao fight just when the boxing world had him cornered.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Rostov Papa
            This...

            He's done on the top level. When you lose to Trout... Roach can match him smartly and make him look like he's stil word class, doe.

            /thread.
            Roach does not pick his opponents, he is done at the top level hu? Yet everyone wants him to fight Canelo and or GGG why would you want to see an old washed up fighter against those guys?

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              #26
              Originally posted by bigjavi973
              and if you followed cotto's career you would know that he fought very different from his days with his uncle. He basically was training himself after the margacheat loss, until he hooked up with pedro diaz (which was a terrible mash cuz cotto is an attacker and diaz was training him to box more instead). He actually has thrown more left hooks with roach than prior to being with him.
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              Its all mainly cottos fault. He was a greedy ego centric bastard. didn't want to pay his uncle. (I know there was a suit for payment of training fees). Then he fired stewart because he asked for too much money. He was training himself between trainers. Thinking he could do it himself. At least now he learned. Pay for a good trainer and keep it moving. Money follows.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Weebler I
                I don't think he's done, I (probably naively) buy into the rejuvenated Cotto under Roach. He is past prime though, and **** him for giving Floyd a backdoor out of the Pacquiao fight just when the boxing world had him cornered.
                Floyd will be fighting Manny and you will say he had too , even after Floyd beats Manny you will say its because Manny was shot .

                If there is side doors with plaques that say Vargas and Cotto , we all know who is fighting a real elite opponent .

                Now I would be very happy for Floyd to fight Khan and Manny to fight this washed up fighter named Cotto for the MW crown and I will bet good money that Cotto knocks Manny out .

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  Floyd will be fighting Manny and you will say he had too , even after Floyd beats Manny you will say its because Manny was shot .

                  If there is side doors with plaques that say Vargas and Cotto , we all know who is fighting a real elite opponent .

                  Now I would be very happy for Floyd to fight Khan and Manny to fight this washed up fighter named Cotto for the MW crown and I will bet good money that Cotto knocks Manny out .
                  And if he doesn't, and fights Cotto instead, best believe I'll refer you to this post.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Weebler I
                    I don't think he's done, I (probably naively) buy into the rejuvenated Cotto under Roach. He is past prime though, and **** him for giving Floyd a backdoor out of the Pacquiao fight just when the boxing world had him cornered.
                    The only two Cotto fights that matter to me as his fan are a rematch with Pac and a rematch with Floyd but not at the cost of not getting Floyd/Pac. I only care about those rematches because he is at the end of his career, I don't buy into the rejuvenated theory my belief is that he is conserving energy by not over training any more and taking long recovery breaks between fights. I believe he looses against GGG but not as easy as many people around here say. I also believe he looses against Canelo in a hard fought fight. I also feel that if he decides to keep the MW belt he needs to face his mandatory who happens to be the man everyone thinks is the best MW GGG. The rematch with Mayweather should be for glory and not the MW belt, but I understand the belt is the only reason Floyd would fight him.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Fantasiabruja
                      Why is it that most people here believe Cotto is washed up can only beat cripples and is not a great fighter, yet everyone is willing to pay big money to watch him take on Canelo and half of the people on here believe he will kill Canelo. The kid is only 24 only lost once against Floyd and is improving in every fight. The non great cripple beating Cotto is the guy everyone wants to see in the second biggest fight that can happen in 2015 yet he is a ducking washed up diva, gay eye brow plucker and cripple beater. Never been KOed in his career but will get KOed in four rounds by GGG, I personally believe Cotto can't beat GGG, but he's a harder fight for GGG than most think.
                      I won't say he is done but he is well past his best, Marg beat the prime out of him and Pacquiao beat the second best version of Cotto. Since then, it's all been downhill, although I have long maintained that he will beat Canelo, not because Cotto is anywhere near his best but because Canelo has so much to learn and is tailor made for the PR man.

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