Would defeating Margarito have done anything for Mayweathers legacy in retrospect

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  • Cut Man
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    #221
    Margarito has no reputation after the hand wraps scandal. He means nothing to Mayweather's legacy is improved by being smart enough not to get in the ring with a cheater.

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    • Rath
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      #222
      Originally posted by Cut Man
      Margarito has no reputation after the hand wraps scandal. He means nothing to Mayweather's legacy is improved by being smart enough not to get in the ring with a cheater.
      Had Floyd get in the ring with Margarito and beat him imagine Floyd fans saying look even with the wraps Floyd still whoop his behind.

      Had Floyd get in the ring with Margarito and lost imagine Floyd fans saying look he was beaten beacuse Marg cheated had he not Floyd whoop his behind.

      Both of those statements above are legitimate points for Floyd and Floyd fans alike and safe from ducking accusation.

      Since Floyd did not get in the ring with Margarito, Floyd ducking marg will forever be sketch in the anals of history no matter how Floyd fans defends it, his legacy is tainted however small.

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        #223
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        But the whole point is that his entire resume comes under question. So Margarito potentially may have not been much of a fighter, or an overhyped via cheating, during his peak. So a win over him, in hindsight, would mean little to nothing today.
        I would have been a great win dude. Particularly so when they subsequently found out that he probably had plastered wraps.

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          #224
          Originally posted by Cut Man
          Margarito has no reputation after the hand wraps scandal. He means nothing to Mayweather's legacy is improved by being smart enough not to get in the ring with a cheater.
          Mayweather is now a clairvoyant as well as the Guardian of all Boxers.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #225
            It would have.

            He should have fought him in 2006.

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              #226
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              It would have.

              He should have fought him in 2006.
              He left TR in 2006. He bought out Arum's contract for $750k, best thing he ever did. Arum did not want to make Mayweather-DLH. Apparently Arum wanted Floyd to fight in August 2006, Floyd would not be ready by then because he had injured his right hand vs Judah, hence him fighting Baldomir in November.

              I bolded some key sentences in this article from 2006:

              Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.

              "We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."

              Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.

              The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

              Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

              Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

              "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

              Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

              Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

              The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

              Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

              "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.
              Floyd Mayweather Jr. rejected promoter Bob Arum's $8 million offer to fight welterweight titlist Antonio Margarito, and he instead exercised a provision in his contract to buy Arum out.

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              • -Kev-
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                #227
                Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.
                For such a supposed big fight that it was (Mayweather-Cotto) at the time, how come Arum couldn't make it despite Floyd wanting it? Because of money? He also didn't want to make Mayweather-DLH because of money. Goes to show how greedy he is. He doesn't care about making good fights, he cares more about his pockets. He will hold up fights from being made if his old rich ass is not getting a big cut. His reasoning for not making Mayweather vs Cotto/Hatton/DLH in 2006, you would think would expose him to the TR fanbase but that will go right over their heads.

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by LEFTYGUNZZ
                  reloaded shows his boxing intelligence in the bolded
                  Every time I read his post he's insulting someone for having a negative opinion towards Floyd. Level 10 groupie for sure. And to think us tax payers helped to feed that silly kid.

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                    #229
                    Originally posted by bigjavi973
                    you mean sharmba mitchell??? LMAO why fight mitchell instead of the reigning wbo champ???
                    Experts had Floyd not taking that fight saying it was a dangerous one

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                      #230
                      Originally posted by -Kev-
                      He left TR in 2006. He bought out Arum's contract for $750k, best thing he ever did. Arum did not want to make Mayweather-DLH. Apparently Arum wanted Floyd to fight in August 2006, Floyd would not be ready by then because he had injured his right hand vs Judah, hence him fighting Baldomir in November.

                      I bolded some key sentences in this article from 2006:



                      http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382
                      Point is that it would have been a very good if not great win had he fought him. It's not about excusemaking.

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